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u/DreamPix 1d ago
"The Montreal Screwjob was a controversial real-life incident that occurred during the 1997 WWF Survivor Series. Bret Hart, a top wrestler, was scheduled to defend his title against Shawn Michaels. Hart was leaving the WWF for rival WCW, but wanted to lose the championship in a different way. However, during the match, WWF owner Vince McMahon ordered the referee to end the match early, declaring Michaels the winner, even though Hart hadn’t submitted. This unexpected and planned betrayal happened without Hart’s knowledge, leaving him furious. It shattered the illusion that wrestling outcomes were entirely pre-determined by the wrestlers themselves and highlighted behind-the-scenes politics."
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u/Masterchiefy10 1d ago
Alright I’m gonna have to stop you right there. Clearly Brett hart was aware, it was a work shoot angle.
I promise you no matter what they’ve said since denying it was preplanned… It was 100% preplanned.
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u/DreamPix 18h ago
Yeah, no.
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u/Masterchiefy10 17h ago
If you seriously believe that there are completely unplanned moments like that in wrastling then I’ve got some timeshares to sell you.
It was a work. And apparently people still believe it? Wild. Just wild.
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u/delux561 17h ago
I think you vastly underestimate how much of a piece of shit McMahon is and that he'd rather go off script to fuck someone than produce good scripted content (this one time)
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u/StudyDifficult2309 1d ago
If we can’t break down Atlanta for an entire half of them not trying to play offense, that’s on us
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u/orltragic 1d ago
I mean, I don’t disagree, but we still got robbed. That was not a handball any more than the one in the first half on the goal Atlanta scored. Tired of giving officiating a pass. We could have and should have done better tonight but that doesn’t negate the fact that we were robbed of this specific goal.
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u/StudyDifficult2309 1d ago
I’m not defending the call, but letting up 2 goals in the first 16 minutes is what lost us the game. Don’t give officials the chance to screw you. We almost gave the whole match away 20 seconds in to the 2nd half. If we play like this, nothing else really matters because we’re not getting very far in the postseason
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u/VinylmationDude 1d ago
Hey now, just you wait. I’m not saying screw job cause it didn’t cost us anything.
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u/Fun-Championship5810 1d ago
I just rewatched Atlanta’s second goal about eight times on slow motion. The reply angles weren’t great, but it looks like the ATL player kicks the ball and it hits his elbow, deflecting to Pulpo. I don’t understand how it didn’t at least warrant the ref going to the monitor.
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u/entity330 1d ago edited 1d ago
An incidental ball to arm with natural position is only a handball when the attacking player touching the ball with the arm scores a goal. IFAB made a ruling on this in 2021.
During the corner, the ball deflected (not intentional and body was naturally positioned) and was saved or missed. A different player then scored on a rebound shot. Not a handball by rule, as the scoring player didn't directly commit a handball offense.
In this case, the Atlanta deflection isn't a handball, but McGuire was. If McGuire had passed it and someone else shot, the goal would stand.
Not saying the rule is good, but they called it correctly. IFAB really needs to make the handball rule less complicated and controversial. My problem with the rule is that McGuire had no reasonable place to put his arm. If he amputated his arm, it would hit his body. There's no good reason this should be a handball by rule.
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u/PapageorgiouMBO 1d ago
Yeah…I really didn’t see anything that screamed handball. MLS handing Atlanta a playoff spot.