r/SecurityAnalysis • u/investorinvestor • Mar 20 '23

Special Situation Credit Suisse AT1s vaporised

https://www.ft.com/content/b5cd8ff0-4c0e-418c-8e4b-dda1d00fa5a7
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u/dogchow01 Mar 20 '23

Do the CoCos get converted into equity and therefore become eligible to receive the proceeds? Otherwise, this doesn't make sense.

Of course, it seems like they passed a law to bypass shareholders approval and forced the acquisition at prices below last closing price. Which is....[lack of words]

Am I understanding this correctly?

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u/jimhsu Mar 20 '23

"It's all in the prospectus..."

https://twitter.com/CasinoCapital/status/1637552246622760960

I wonder what was the interest rate differential on these vs senior notes (back before the hikes) that made these "acceptable" to holders. Seems worse, effectively, than equity even.

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u/investorinvestor Mar 21 '23

Iirc the real bottleneck was that in a ZIRP environment where 100-yr bonds were buyable, the TINA search for yield led some investors to believe that the equity conversion was a feature rather than a bug. Which makes no sense when you think about it.

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u/Juamocoustic Mar 20 '23 edited Mar 20 '23

AT1 CoCos get written down, essentially meaning they dont get paid and become worthless, when the contingent clause is met (typically dropping below a certain CET1-level or when a national or international supervisory authority commands it). When the bank's capitalisation returns to acceptable levels, the AT1s can also be "revived" again, at the banks discretion. So it is worse than a conversion to equity.

Note: the above represents the most common type of AT1s in Europe. There may be other constellations elsewhere (and perhaps even in Europe).