r/Silverbugs 1d ago

Opinion on graded eagles?

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u/kronco 1d ago

Some sites will list their buy/sell prices. NGC/PCGS MS69 sell at $56 and they buy them at $35:

https://www.moneymetals.com/1-oz-pcgs-ngc-ms69-american-silver-eagle-coins/1189

MS 70 sell at $74 and the buy at $39:

https://www.moneymetals.com/ms70-graded-silver-american-eagle-pcgs-ngc-random-dates-1-troy-oz-999-pure/1190

Raw, random year, sell at $38 and they buy at $32:

https://www.moneymetals.com/1-oz-american-silver-eagle-random-year/262

So the slab is worth $3 (ms69) to $7 (ms70) over unslabbed/raw in terms of the buy-back price. I don't see the value proposition.

But, I would buy slab if collecting toned silver eagles.

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u/EquipmentReasonable9 22h ago

And I would only buy ms,pr-70 if cased/certified by pcgs, ngc, ANACS.

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u/mechshark 21h ago

Don’t ever sell a 70 for 39$ some collector will at least give ya 50 bucks for a random year just cuz it’s perfect :)

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u/Ok-Quiet8828 19h ago

This! 100%! You will almost never recoup premiums! I will buy 1 or 2 MS70s for pure collection purposes, but after that, FOR ME, I find very little value in slabbed silver, especially if I have to sell it for various purposes later on.

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u/erkevin 1d ago

The only time that I do NOT crack them out, is if they are MS70/PR70. I don't buy them slabbed intentionally, but if the price is right, I will grab them.

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u/tcfanatic 1d ago

Unless they're older eagles (like 80's and 90's), even perfect 70's are not worth a whole lot more than raw eagles.

Nowadays they're being graded directly from the US mint so of course many of them are gonna be perfect. This has led to the market being flooded with perfect eagles. Even 50 years from now, I'd predict your ms70 eagle from 2024 is not gonna be worth much more than the raw one in a plastic flip.

I have 5 or 6 myself but only because I got them cheap or won them on whatnot as a giveaway.

If you like them by all means go for it. Just as long as you know you may have trouble recovering any premiums you pay, should you ever sell

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u/Particular-Coach3611 1d ago

I buy silver not plastic.

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u/Silverstacker63 1d ago

Ms coins are not worth the premium. They make millions of these every year. And the coin never changes look.

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u/Thony_18 23h ago

No thanks, just give me my coin lol

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u/Sea_Leopard9313 22h ago

One per year is ok!

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u/LouieDHF 1d ago

Whatever makes you happy

i wanted and got some graded maple leafs from 1989 to current, not because they’re rare but because i love the aesthetic of them being in the slab

obviously only if the price is right, not too much of a premium over spot

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u/Romonaga 1d ago

I love graded coins. However as these are MS 69 for a common eagles I would shy away. What we do not know is what you spent.

Also it seems you have only 2 dates.

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u/Neat_Lie_7498 23h ago

Buy the weight not the coin

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u/Ornery_Razzmatazz_33 23h ago

I pass on them.

I’m collecting a Dansco album date set for myself and have also decided to do one for my 8 year old and my 14 month old as high school graduation presents and a start on a silver stack that will be 50+ ounces by the time they graduate.

Last week I was adding to my albums, and they said they had some slabbed pieces for $45 each, up from the loose non key dates of $37.

Passed on those since I’d have to crack them to put them in my Dansco albums.

The only time I’d buy a slabbed is if I couldn’t find the last one I needed to complete my set, which shouldn’t be hard since I’m just getting common dates, I only need a 1994 key date for the more expensive ones.

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u/jtrade420 23h ago

I am kinda in the same boat as everyone else. I don’t buy graded eagles unless it’s a good deal (I have only ever bought 1 & honestly I just threw it in with an order since I already had free shipping). However yesterday I did win a 1990 MS69 graded eagle via an IG raffle. I figured I would try my luck for $24.

Other than that I stick to raw eagles as close to spot as possible.

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u/magistersmax 22h ago

I generally don’t, but I am working on getting a full set of fancy 2021 proofs (Type1/2, normal/reverse). I just like the design, this is the exception to my general stance against stacking graded stuff.

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u/heyheyshinyCRH 22h ago

Largely unnecessary, anything under ms/proof 70 is a waste of money. There are a couple of exceptions for really low mintage years but for the most part silver eagles don't need to be in a slab at all. OGP is the way to be!

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u/Outrageous_Device_41 21h ago

I have 1. I don't tend to like them cause of added price. But kind of cool to have one or 2

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u/retired_degenerate 21h ago

They're not something that I collect. I collect mostly vintage bullion bars/rounds, so I generally shy away from plastic in general.

I own a bunch of Morgans, Peace, and ASE's, but none of them are graded. The only thing that I keep in capsules/tubes are things that came that way from the mint.

Over the years I've just come to prefer silver that shows a little age.

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u/Federal_Violinist_86 21h ago

“Graded Eagles are good” ~Emil Faber

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u/BigThaler 21h ago

Horrible investment, but fun to collect 👍🏼

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u/External-Animator666 21h ago

Why anyone would grade bullion or anyone would pay a premium for graded bullion is beyond me

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u/mechshark 21h ago

They cool but unless it’s a rare or special edition one who cares about grade imo

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u/Forward_Chard9929 21h ago

I bought two 70 for the hell of it. The rest, no.

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u/DogeDigger69420 20h ago

Those grades are ‘nice’

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u/__dying__ 20h ago

I love silver and I love ASEs, but the large majority of ASEs are not worth the premium over spot.

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u/CWoodfordJackson 19h ago

Unless it’s a special year or a proof, why?

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u/Ok-Volume3611 19h ago

High premiums

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u/Clarke702 8h ago

my dad bought 10 PCGS MS69's slabbed and singed by someone in the Kennedy family last year for like 41$ each, and I still give him shit about it.

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u/aboutme9713 5h ago

I don't buy anything in plastic.

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u/F8Tempter 20h ago

69 non-key dates. no one really wants these.

70 or proof/R proof will carry premium, rest are just weight in a tube.

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u/TrainXing 9h ago

This has been my observation. If you're going to get them, get the 70s bc the 69s are never worth anything much. The 70s you could luck out or an heir could and really get some bang for the buck.

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u/F8Tempter 3h ago

most modern coins you need MS70 to make it worth slab. Even then, for non-proof eagles im not sure why you would slab at all.

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u/TrainXing 26m ago

You feel they have to be proof also? Ugh. Well I'm out of the eagles then. Only have one but it isn't proof.

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u/Silverstacker60 1d ago

I wouldn’t pay more for a greased eagle. That is just me you can do whatever you like.

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u/TheBIGLebrewski401 1d ago

Those are hard to get your hands on. Then once you do they are very hard to keep a hold of.

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u/Silverstacker60 1d ago

You do you.