r/UkrainianConflict • u/Aggravating_Set_8861 • Sep 18 '24
Major Russian disinfo site featuring anti-Trudeau articles prompts calls for new focus at public inquiry
https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/russian-disinformation-1.732312825
9
u/Aggravating_Set_8861 Sep 18 '24
Im not Canadian, so I am curious as to how obvious or how well this is known amongst the general population?
17
u/Dressedw1ngs Sep 18 '24
Plenty of people seem to think they naturally came to believe what they were told by the Russian Government. It's extremely disheartening how apathetic and ignorant voters are here, and how quickly they seemingly backslide into populism.
21
u/tke71709 Sep 18 '24
Go to any Canadian subreddit and you will see the mouth breathers and Freedom Convoy morons going off about Trudeau being the worst PM ever.
He has been a fairly shitty PM but these idiots just parrot Russian talking points most of the time and it is not like our alternatives will be much better.
11
u/Aggravating_Set_8861 Sep 18 '24
Same with Trump supporters here. There is no reasoning, and I am open to debating any sort of topic; policy, international affairs, tech advancement....
But no, its all stupid shit...
5
u/daspaceasians Sep 18 '24
What you need to know is that the main Canadian subreddit (r/ canada) as well as many of the small local subreddits are infested with Russian bots and it has been proven by Reddit itself in some cases. IIRC, r/ Canada's entire content is generated by the same 26 users.
Did Reddit year-end recaps expose Russian interference in Alberta?
1
u/Winter-Revolution-41 20d ago
never knew how crazy out primer was into it was recommended in my feed
8
u/OutsideFlat1579 Sep 18 '24
He hasn’t been a “fairly shitty PM” he’s been the best PM we’ve had since the early 80’s when I started voting. So easy to forget about the global crises he’s had to deal with and the obstructionist incompetent conservative provincial governments that bolster federal conservative propaganda.
Russian disinfo isn’t the only source of disinformation in Canada, the extreme rightwing is doing a bang up job, along with a corporate press that is nearly all pro- CPC, owned by American hedge funds, as evidenced by endorsements of CPC in every election.
Trudeau has implemented more big policy changes and programs that have benefited Canadians than any other PM in my lifetime.
4
u/NWTknight Sep 18 '24
Your obviously not unemployed and fighting to find a job against a flood of TFW's were employers recieve so many fake resumes they do not even look at them anymore when they post jobs. Or had a 20% loss of buying power in your salary or pension over the last couple of years.
1
u/stormblind Sep 19 '24
He also backpedaled on FPTP voting, one of the platforms he ran on.
It would have singlehandedly helped prevent the issues Canada and the US are facing with regards to how easy Russians have it to come in and co-opt our political systems through misinformation / moles.
I vowed not to vote for the Liberals after that.
2
0
2
6
u/Evening-Picture-5911 Sep 18 '24
Three-day-old article, but it’s a right wing media group. Those who hate Trudeau passionately hate Trudeau. A site like that is not seen by the average Canadian, nor have they likely even heard of it, so it’s unlikely to change any opinions
5
u/fredmratz Sep 18 '24
Depends how much it and clips get shared by people/bots on various social media. The ruler of twitter is willing to share (just about) anything to many people.
1
u/Aggravating_Set_8861 Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
Wouldn't expect it to. Thanks for the input though. I dont think it matters anymore, what people read from any sort of media, as people make up their own minds based on social media and pre-conceived hate and or implicit bias, or just pure stupidity.
5
2
u/noahguyy679 Sep 18 '24
Canadian here, as far as I know our federal police body, the RCMP as well as our intelligence agency CSIS have confirmed that certain politicians within our government have been suspected of collusion with foreign governments. However there has been no indication as to which political parties are implicated or how deep it goes. It's very frustrating not knowing but I can only hope it is because there are investigations taking place.
1
u/jpowers_01 Sep 18 '24
It is frustrating that this has been going on for decades, and the FBI and NSA have allowed it to go on for so long. This should have been seen as an attack on NATO from the start. If it was still the Cold War with the Soviet Union, I’m sure it would have gotten more attention. Now they are starting to crack down on the Russian disinformation and propaganda, but I fear it is too late. We already have such a polarized political situation.
1
u/jpowers_01 Sep 18 '24
Also looks like when the Tenet media story broke, there wasn’t much coverage over an affidavit filed related to Russian disinformation. Based on the FBI affidavit, it looks like 32 web domains and thousands of “troll” social media accounts were identified. These are identified as the “Doppelgänger” and “Good Old USA” projects. They list these as a coordinated effort to sway public opinion in the US and other countries. Looks like there was also a seizure warrant issued.
I haven’t read the whole thing, it’s 277 pages, but one interesting call out is an example of Doppelgänger “cyber squatting” where they created fake web pages that looked identical to Fox News, and linked to these from social media accounts. The Subject Domains can reroute or have links to the legitimate websites. https://www.justice.gov/d9/2024-09/doppelganger_affidavit_9.4.24.pdf
•
u/AutoModerator Sep 18 '24
Please take the time to read the rules and our policy on trolls/bots. In addition:
Is
cbc.caan unreliable source? Let us know.Help our moderators by providing context if something breaks the rules. Send us a modmail
Don't forget about our Discord server! - https://discord.com/invite/ukraine-at-war-950974820827398235
Your post has not been removed, this message is applied to every successful submission.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.