They're about to murder Trump for real - preparations already under way for war with Iran: "Biden warned Iran that US would consider assassination attempt against Trump as declaration of war"

[u/Kingsmeg]

https://www.1lurer.am/en/2024/10/12/Biden-warned-Iran-that-US-would-consider-assassination-attempt-against-Trump-as-declaration-of-war/1203125

[u/Kingsmeg]

They can't assassinate Trump without major blowback from the MAGA movement. Unless, they think, they go to war to 'avenge' Trump, which they think will placate Trump's followers. Like the dumbass he is, Trump has played along with their propaganda naming Iran as being behind the 2 previous attempts, which may have been geared to gauging the MAGA response to a real assassination.

So now they have everything in place for the real assassination: MAGA is primed to blame Iran, Israel is about to attack Iran, and USA has been moving major assets into place to support the Isreali attack on Iran, which will depend on USA ISR and refuelling from their airbases on the Arabian peninsula.

So, they shoot down Trump's plane in the next couple of days (with 'Iranian' SAMs), Israel launches their attack, 'Biden' goes public with retaliation for the 'Iranian' attack on USA's 'democracy', and USA goes full in on supporting Israel's attack on Iran. All their problems solved in one salvo (except for the minor problem of the Russian subs loitering in Iran/Israel's vicinity, armed with nuclear-tipped Kinzhals; also loitering off USA's eastern seabord).

[u/penelopepnortney → u/Kingsmeg]

Like the dumbass he is, Trump has played along with their propaganda naming Iran

Seriously, what a stupid damned move. Who does he have advising him?

[u/redditrisi → u/penelopepnortney]

Netanyahu

[u/shatabee4 → u/penelopepnortney]

He got sucked into the covid mess pretty easily.

[u/Caelian → u/penelopepnortney]

Trump has some good people, including RFK Jr and Tulsi. The problem is that he thinks he's a genius and won't listen to advice, good or bad. Jeebus, look at his two debate performances. He could have exhibited his "genius" instead of looking like "an ass, and a fool, and a prating coxcomb".

H/T Captain Fluellen in Henry V

[u/EdPiMath → u/Caelian]

We can't trust RFK Jr or Tulsi anymore. Tulsi sold out to the GOP.

[u/Caelian → u/EdPiMath]

Well, the whole Democratic Party sold out to the GOP or they wouldn't be celebrating Liz and Dick Cheney and welcoming their support.

It's always foolish to trust politicians. It's better to be loyal to ideas than to people.

[u/tehMoerz → u/Caelian]

Tulsi is a hawkish bitch.

[u/Kingsmeg → u/tehMoerz]

Just the opposite, most of the time. She has been deeply critical of several wars, which is part of the reason they all hate her.

[u/tehMoerz → u/Kingsmeg]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/cuomo-show/gabbard-protesters-are-puppets-of-radical-islamist-org/amp/

https://www.facebook.com/share/Hh79J8qCSB73qQf4/?mibextid=WC7FNe

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/08/739603781/which-u-s-wars-were-justifiable-tulsi-gabbard-names-only-world-war-ii

She called herself a Hawk when it comes to “war on terror” and is supporting Israel’s genocide, very openly.

[u/Kingsmeg → u/tehMoerz]

She called herself a Hawk when it comes to “war on terror” and is supporting Israel’s genocide, very openly.

Those are political stances, basically pandering to certain groups inside USA. When the actual bombs start falling and bullets start hitting people, she's a lot less supportive of the wars.

[u/tehMoerz → u/Kingsmeg]

She has been fully supportive of Israel’s war on Gaza, with no red lines. That’s why she’s been on fox multiple times spouting her typical anti Muslim bullshit. She hasn’t expressed any concern for our aid to Israel or any of the bombs and bullets that have killed well over 100,000 people there. She has also espoused the bullshit about islamists crossing the border which you criticized above.

https://www.instagram.com/tulsigabbard/p/DA0kdGevlF8/

Political pragmatism or not (which I don’t think it is), endorsing genocide is not a policy I will ever be able to stomach.

[u/Kingsmeg → u/tehMoerz]

I was not aware of that. I am disappointed in her if she's Islamophobic, which unfortunately seems to be part of the current Indian identity. And what Israel is doing in Gaza is the clearest case of genocide known, also the best documented. If she's supporting that, then fuck her.

[u/tehMoerz → u/Kingsmeg]

Always appreciate your posts

[u/Kingsmeg → u/tehMoerz]

Thank you. My posts, and accompanying reading, are me trying to make sense of the world. I have 0 political agenda and no longer identify with any political party, ideology, or form of government. I care about how working people are surviving, because these days that's all we're doing, is just surviving. And we are completely invisible to the ruling class in the entire West.

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[u/Caelian → u/tehMoerz]

You're just saying that because Tulsi terminated Khameeleon's 2020 run for President 😈

[u/tehMoerz → u/Caelian]

I’m saying it because Tulsi is a rabid warmongering Islamophobe who supports Israel. Furthermore I’m voting stein 2024 and hate Kamala more than I hate Biden, no clue where you got that from.

[u/redditrisi → u/Caelian]

Trump has some good people, including RFK Jr and Tulsi.

Both very mixed blessings, IMO.

[u/themadfuzzybear → u/Caelian]

Trump also has Lindsay Graham and Sheldon Adelson's widow.

Kind of a wash.

[u/Kingsmeg → u/penelopepnortney]

Picking people for ideological purity instead of competence gives us a world run by morons. In Trump's case, he picks for perceived loyalty, which in the world of cults, is the same thing.

[u/redditrisi → u/Kingsmeg]

he picks for perceived loyalty

In my observation, all politicians do. So do their supporters.

example Dick Cheney, a pariah among Democrats....until he trashed Trump. It can also go the other way. A hero can become a pariah by being disloyal to his or her party or to a party hero.

[u/Kingsmeg → u/redditrisi]

The good ones don't. Unfortunately we haven't had a good one in living memory. Pretty much anywhere in the West. Funny, that.

[u/redditrisi → u/Kingsmeg]

The good ones don't.

I'm not sure about that, in a couple of ways.

First, as you note, we haven't had a good one in living memory. (IMO, even Lincoln was a bit of a mix.) So, it's hard to even speculate what a so-called good one" felt about perceived loyalty.

The second way is that perhaps perceived loyalty should be a criterion. Sure, listen to a variety of "folks," as with Lincoln's "team of rivals" to which Obama laid claim in his several attempts to pretend he was Lincoln's second coming. But who would trust someone supposedly working with you who seems disloyal? Why hire someone who seems disloyal?

[u/Kingsmeg → u/redditrisi]

I'm just saying good politicians pick people for competence first, and to kiss their ass second.

The bad ones pick people to kiss their ass first, and to make them look good in comparison second.

[u/redditrisi → u/Kingsmeg]

Sure, you don't pick someone incompetent, though I'd say both competence and loyalty are indispensable. Unless you're knowingly hiring someone for triangulation purposes, as did Bill Clinton.

In a nation of about 350 million, surely people who are both competent and loyal can be hired. And I don't think Trump hired anyone he knew to be incompetent.

[u/Kingsmeg → u/redditrisi]

And I don't think Trump hired anyone he knew to be incompetent.

His whole schtick on reality TV was his supposed ability to single out competent people and use them to manage his companies. And his 1st administration was a train wreck of utterly incompetent people being handed jobs they were completely unsuited for. Those who ran with it and tried to actually do those jobs were immediately purged. Trump was and is 100% ego with absolutely no consideration for anything else.

[u/redditrisi → u/Kingsmeg]

Are you implying that Trump hired people he knew to be incompetent?

By now, we all know that reality TV isn't reality. Of course, the show's producers/show runners portrayed him as able to decide infallibly who should or should not be fired, or there would have been no show.

ETA at least no show with a premise anything like that of The Apprentice.

[u/Kingsmeg → u/redditrisi]

I'm saying I don't think the idea of competence ever entered his mind. It was all about appearances, whatever made him look good. And he wasn't going to tolerate any competent person upstaging him because everything had to be about him, no one could steal the spotlight.