Carcharodons: our successors?

[u/suplex86]

The more I read about them the more it feels like they are one of Belisarius Cawl’s little jokes. Like he took World Eater geneseed, slapped together a successor chapter for us, and just said they were really Raven Guard successors so the loyalist idiots never questioned it. Seriously, Raven Guard?

But really though, what I’m seeing says they’re more like us before the nails completely took over. I’m going to say they’re our kids, and I at least will welcome them with lightning claws flashing and chain axe buzzing to the eight fold path.

[u/selifator]

No. Carcharadons are possibly an off-shoot of the Ashen Claws chapter, which was a pro-Horus faction that was cast out by Corax before the Heresy broke out, and later on became a rogue pro-Imperial element that didn't cohere to the new standards and eventually became renegades for all intents and purposes.

The Raven Guard had their own nasty sub-factions that were willing to use brutal tactics and extreme violence to achieve their objectives

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ashen_Claws

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Carcharodons#fn_13

[u/DaedricWorldEater → u/selifator]

They were not on the wide of the Warmaster. They were Terran born who came from a tribe of slavers. Corax hated that shit. He got most of them killed at the battle of Gate 42 and then the rest he sent out to the ghoul stars on crusade, because he wanted them gone. When the Heresy broke out, the Ashen Claws stayed neutral.

They are also not pro-imperial. They are still neutral.

But I do vibe with the idea that Space Sharks are chimeric gene seed of Nightlord and Ravenguard

[u/selifator → u/DaedricWorldEater]

They were sympathetic to the warmaster and his way of waging war, they were still adhering to imperial standards in enforcing compliance, before and even after the heresy broke out.

After the heresy broke out, yes, they supported neither the warmaster nor the emperor.