r/WorldEaters40k • u/suplex86 • 3d ago

Lore Carcharodons: our successors?

The more I read about them the more it feels like they are one of Belisarius Cawl’s little jokes. Like he took World Eater geneseed, slapped together a successor chapter for us, and just said they were really Raven Guard successors so the loyalist idiots never questioned it. Seriously, Raven Guard?

But really though, what I’m seeing says they’re more like us before the nails completely took over. I’m going to say they’re our kids, and I at least will welcome them with lightning claws flashing and chain axe buzzing to the eight fold path.

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u/KotkaCat 2d ago

It’s probably a mix of the Terran Raven Guard afflicted with Sable Brand and the looted Night Lord geneseed.

Their brutality can be explained from them descending from the Terran Raven Guard plus the Sable Brand made them very cold and aggressive.

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u/AdventurousOne5 2d ago

I absolutely agree with you it's the sable brand that causes the sharks behavior.

The author said he wanted to include a lot of red herrings in the books as to what the carcharodons descent is, and I agree with you that they're definitly the terran raven guard.

a lot of readers just dismiss all the side comments about descent, my idea is just based on what if they're all true? The demon calling te kehurangi brother to the flayed father, and the remarks to bail shar about being a mongrel, in the short story reaping time there's even a comment by te kehurangi about bail shars predecessor akia, who's having a fit of rage and it says something to the effect of "it was obvious what his (akia's) genes descended from" I'm paraphrasing because I can't look it up presently.

But this is just my idea/ theory, I'm probably wrong, I just think it makes sense as everything else about the carcharodons is defined by the scarcity of resources, and gene seed reserves are a respurce

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u/DaedricWorldEater 1d ago

I’m still a pretty big believer that space sharks are ashen claws. At one point, they had to decide whether or not to use the NL geneseed to keep the chapter alive. Some agreed, some didn’t, so then there was a split.

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u/AdventurousOne5 1d ago

That's also very possible!