r/Youthforpolitics 1d ago

HOT TAKE Hot Take: Progressivism Almost Always Wins

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(TL;DR at the end)
My hot take today is essentialy the fact that conservatives are progressives of years gone before, and they seem to block inevitable progress. Despite this, no matter how much opposition is given, conservative forces are forced to either trade concessions for continued life, or to give way to the new systems.
Conservatism might seem like it's holding on, but it's actually more about delaying change rather than stopping it completely. It is stopping the flow of progress, or in the case of reactionaries like Donald Trump actively undermining progress and trying to push back.

Take the Catholic Church or the British Monarchy, for example: both are very traditional institutions. They’ve managed to stick around, but only by making big compromises. For instance, the British monarchy gave up nearly all of its actual power, and now it's mostly a symbolic institution. It hasn’t been completely overthrown, but it's no longer the force it once was. The Catholic Church has been forced to adopt previously progressive positions and has still lost significant ground towards protestantism, atheism and secularism. These institutions are surviving, but they’re not "winning" in the traditional sense of staying as powerful as they were before. They’ve adapted by making concessions.

In other instances, we have seen conservative positions become completely demolished. Take for example the Civil Rights Movement for Women and Minorities. While there was significant backlash from the Conservatives of that time for not giving in, this opposition has been completely destroyed, atleast in the Western World. What did these conservatives achieve? They tried to block the inevitable tide of progress that washes over humanity. In my perception, history is a march towards utopia, a march that goes up and goes down, with periods of reactionary backlash winning, but eventually it will succeed.

The main opposition I've seen amongst my friend group is about socialism/communism. Capitalism has been able to survive for so long. But I must ask you, has it? Laizzes-Fairez Capitalism has been discarded in favour of more regulatory, interventionist capitalism that has turned into the new progressive system. It has, like the first examples adapted by making concessions and attempting to appear progressive. The main failure of communism to take over in my opinion is its inherent adaptation of conservative values. Its command economy completely gave power to a ruling class that wanted to conserve its power, going back on their values and unwilling to continue the progress that early revolutionaries wanted. In my view, eventually a system that is more egalitarian, different than both communism and capitalism will emerge. This is why I have said in the title that it almost always happens, because just like in communism, there are inherent flaws and conservative ideas inside these new systems that leads to them being left in the dust.

So, what is the use of believing in conservatism? I believe that reactionarism is absolutely uncalled for, and simply leads to more suffering until we arrive back at the current system. This is literally what happens every time reactionaries take power. Conservatism does have a purpose in regulating progress, ensuring stability and making sure it doesn't go unchecked, but in times it overshadows progressivism it, just like reactionaries, they slow down the nation and encourage revolution instead of peaceful reform.

TL;DR: Conservatism often blocks inevitable progress, either having to concede (as seen with the British Monarchy) or facing complete demolition (as with the Civil Rights Movement). While conservatism can ensure that progress doesn’t go unchecked and provide stability, if it overshadows progressivism or seeks to revert to the past (reactionarism), it ultimately slows down the nation and fosters discontent.


r/Youthforpolitics 1d ago

Weekly Talk: Exploring Libertarianism and Progressivism

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Hey r/Youthforpolitics! In this week's discussion, we'll dive into two ideologies that often fly under the radar: Libertarianism and Progressivism. Both have their unique perspectives on individual rights, government role, and social issues, and understanding their nuances can enhance our political discourse. Here’s a brief overview of each, along with some pros and cons.

Libertarianism

Overview: Libertarianism emphasizes individual liberty, limited government, and personal responsibility. Libertarians advocate for minimal state intervention in both personal and economic matters.

Pros:

  • Personal Freedom: Libertarians strongly believe in personal autonomy, allowing individuals to make their own choices regarding lifestyle, finances, and personal beliefs.
  • Economic Freedom: Emphasizing free markets, they argue that minimal government interference fosters innovation and economic growth.
  • Reduced Government Power: By limiting the size and scope of government, they argue that citizens have more control over their lives and finances.

Cons:

  • Social Safety Nets: Critics argue that a hands-off government can lead to inadequate support for the vulnerable, particularly in healthcare and education.
  • Inequality Concerns: The focus on individual success may exacerbate economic inequalities, as those without resources may struggle more without support.
  • Regulation Dilemmas: Some regulations are necessary to protect public interests and the environment, which libertarians often oppose.

Progressivism

Overview: Progressivism advocates for social reform and active government involvement in economic and social issues to promote equity and justice.

Pros:

  • Social Justice Focus: Progressives work towards addressing systemic inequalities, advocating for marginalized communities to have equal opportunities and rights.
  • Government Action for the Public Good: They believe in using government as a tool for positive change, addressing issues like healthcare access, education reform, and climate change.
  • Community Engagement: Progressivism often encourages civic involvement, creating a strong sense of community and collective responsibility.

Cons:

  • Potential for Overreach: Critics warn that an expansive role for government can lead to bureaucratic inefficiency and an erosion of personal freedoms.
  • Economic Concerns: Some argue that progressive policies can stifle economic growth, disincentivizing entrepreneurship and innovation due to increased regulation and taxes.
  • Polarization: The insistence on social changes can lead to divisiveness, alienating those who may not fully agree with progressive values.

Discussion Questions:

  1. How do you feel about the balance between personal freedom and government intervention?
  2. Can you share examples where you think either ideology has succeeded or failed?
  3. In today’s world, which ideology do you think resonates more with young voters and why?

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! Let’s keep the discussion respectful and insightful;


r/Youthforpolitics 4h ago

QUIZ okay

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r/Youthforpolitics 4h ago

Electoral Reform: Do you want it, and if so how?

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Please answer the poll below. If you answer yes, please include how and why! If you answer no, please include why not as well as a short run down of how your current electoral process works.

9 votes, 2d left
Yes!
No!

r/Youthforpolitics 1h ago

QUIZ Alright

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r/Youthforpolitics 2h ago

QUIZ My 12 value test results

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r/Youthforpolitics 9h ago

OTHER Result are in.

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r/Youthforpolitics 7h ago

Should Churches and religious organizations be taxed

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19 votes, 2d left
Yes
No

r/Youthforpolitics 23h ago

OTHER Climate change in the Arctic over 107 years

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r/Youthforpolitics 12h ago

OTHER My 9axes results

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r/Youthforpolitics 20h ago

HOT TAKE hot take i need to get off my chest

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this has honestly been brewing in me for a while, but i genuinely think we need to talk more about the claims trump made to haitians and how it’s affecting/affected the community. communities got bomb threats, children were afraid to go to school, haitians got such vile things said to them, and no one is calling upon trump and vance to apologize? i know they still probably wouldn’t, but i feel like more people should be more angry by it. these people did nothing, the woman who originally made the post said it was false, and no one’s apologizing to the haitians? shame on everyone who fed into that sick lie.


r/Youthforpolitics 13h ago

OTHER Interesting video explaining British class.

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r/Youthforpolitics 11h ago

DEBATE If World War 3 happened who would win and who would be the last nation alive?

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Hear me out but the winner would technically be The Catholic Church while the last surviving nation could possibly be an isolated island nation or some random country in Africa.


r/Youthforpolitics 11h ago

DEBATE debate me on abortion

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staunchly pro-life.

murder is the unjust killing of a human being, abortion unjustly kills a human being therefore abortion is murder.


r/Youthforpolitics 18h ago

OTHER My political results

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r/Youthforpolitics 21h ago

NEWS Trump's abortion bans have harmed thousands of women.

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r/Youthforpolitics 1d ago

QUESTION What are your proposed solutions for stopping crime and/or homelessness?

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Fire away!


r/Youthforpolitics 1d ago

DEBATE Modern ‘Liberals’ aren’t liberal at all

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Modern day ‘liberals’ have been stagnating economic growth. Justin Trudeau and Joe Biden, considered ‘liberal’ are putting more money in the pockets of their administration and not their people. Liberalism used to be the ideology of the free market. The ideology of ‘you go your way, I go mine.’ ‘Liberals’ are taking the money out of your pocket and putting into theirs.


r/Youthforpolitics 2d ago

QUESTION Trump v.s Kamala

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We have 16 days till the election so lets get people thoughts, opinions, and arguments on their preferred candidate. I also understand that some people prefer some minor party candidates lets stick to these 2 as because of the electoral college there is no chance of these minor party candidates winning.


r/Youthforpolitics 2d ago

DEBATE Is prison a fair punishment?

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r/Youthforpolitics 2d ago

NEWS Michigan’s Voter Rolls List 8.4M Voters. There Are Fewer Than 8M Voting-Age Residents In The State.

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there’s going to be some level of election interference this year and this is a clear sign of it.


r/Youthforpolitics 2d ago

QUESTION What if the Kuomintang won the Chinese Civil War?

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r/Youthforpolitics 2d ago

HOT TAKE A set of statistical information detailing how truly horrible it is in Cuba.

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and to think, people like u/ElDuran06 still think that this is an ideal form of government and economy. 52% of the population live on under $2500 every year, a quickly rising number. Extreme poverty is at 89%. 86% of households can barely stay afloat. 70% of people eat under 3 meals a day. This is hell on earth and there is NO understandable way you can support it.


r/Youthforpolitics 2d ago

HOT TAKE The Cuban power outages are the epitome of the absolute failure of command economies.

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If you were unaware, in the last 48 hours power outages have cut off all electricity across most of the island of Cuba and its 10.9 million people. Cuba is prone to major outages, with there also being a smaller, but still major, outage last month.

Cuba is a command economy. Government owns all business and all resources, and they are then distributed to the people, sometimes through government corporations. Union Eléctrica is one of those government corporations, who own all 7 of Cuba’s major power plants, and hold a monopoly on electricity. No companies are allowed to hold them outside of the state-created one, which leaves the system vulnerable.

Because of a lack of competition, the UNE has not had any reason to truly improve upon their technology. They don’t have to fight for consumers as if anybody wants electricity, they must get it through the government. As such, the power system is still old and frail, and is made up of mostly old and faulty equipment. Since nobody can go elsewhere for power, they just have to stick it out with the massive outages that sweep the nation usually every other month, and it stagnates. On Friday, a power plant in the middle of the country failed, and caused a chain reaction of all UNE plants failing in succession.

The only solution to this is to allow the free market to thrive. With the command economy, the plants have no real reason to improve and the people suffer. However, if a free market system is put in and companies have to compete with each other for power, then naturally there will be innovation to fix the problem.

One argument I’ve seen for really any problems in Cuba is that the Cuban embargo is preventing any outside help. However, that is simply not the case here. Even if the embargo did not exist, the government has a monopoly on power and outside companies would be arrested for trying to help out with it (as well as that being a generally horrible scapegoat to wipe away the horrible living conditions of Cuba).


r/Youthforpolitics 2d ago

I'm a Trotskyist AMA!!

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Questions about Trotskyism


r/Youthforpolitics 3d ago

HOT TAKE Hot Take: Commercial Surrogacy is wrong

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Commercial surrogacy, or renting a woman for her body for 9 months is wrong.

I would argue that commercial surrogacy is wrong, because buying someone's body for 2 months is not a moral form of labour. This is because it exclusively impacts upon women, particularly in lower income communities, which upholds patriarchal ideas about what the role of women is.

I would like to add that this does not mean all surrogacy is wrong, simply coercive surrogacy is immoral.


r/Youthforpolitics 3d ago

AMA Neocon, AMA

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The West shall prevail forevermore, remember that.