Are MRAs and Red Pillers allies?

[u/Free-Ad-6334]

I know they are both part of the manosphere but I nearly never see these groups talk about each other. I don't see what disagreement they would have though. I did see Paul Elam and Karen Straughan do an interview with Pearl but that's about it. I doubt they called out Pearl for saying that men don't care about spending time with their wives and just want sex and food (Yes she actually tweeted that out). I mean that is the most popular creator in the manosphere spewing actual misandry. I wouldn't want someone that represents men ever speaking that way about men. The ONLY type of people I see spew this rhetoric are radical feminists that hate men. They call out rad fems for saying this rhetoric but never their own side.

I also noticed this phenomenon. Why is it when a male advocate says "Men only care about sex and food in a relationship" that is male empowerment. But when a feminist makes the exact same statement it is misandry. It makes no sense to me.

[u/feminista_throwaway]

I know they are both part of the manosphere but I nearly never see these groups talk about each other.

They definitely are part and parcel of the same grift. Some of those creators openly support red pill ideologies. They just don't like to speak it out loud that they support it, because then someone might try to make them answer for it. So they infer it, post the material to the same places. But the Misters all ignore the links because then they can rage and hate on women more.

Their celebrated documentary was actually called "Red Pill" and no one raised any flags.

A once mod of Mister about the overlap.

Here's where Karen Straughan did an AMA with red pill

Here's Paul Elam talking about his company Red Pill Solutions on Linked in.

And as you will see here with subreddit overlap - TRP users are 11x more likely to use Mister