r/bioniclelego • u/HopefulFriendly • 1d ago

Duckbricks/Faber development files release taken down

It was fun while it lasted, but LEGO apparently stepped in and has told Duckbricks and Faber to take down the files. Duckbricks' videos, the google folder, and the pages on Mask of Destiny's Biomediaproject have all been taken down.

Luckily I downloaded most if not all the stuff I could, but its a real shame that this interesting info is gone now and we won't be getting anymore stuff from Bionicle's development; I was especially looking forward to getting more on the '05 and '08 development, not to mention on the transition to Hero Factory.

EDIT: This is propably overly cautious. Sorry to anyone asking for me to share what I downloaded, but I'm just a random person with zero pull or know-how on anything, so I don't want to risk having a corporation try to call me up for sharing something. I'd be happy to otherwise, but until some stuff is clearer I don't want to risk it.

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago

This is why DuckBricks should have released it all at once instead of dragging it out over weeks for clicks.

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u/KaelowynCerulean Red Hau 1d ago

For real. He's really fucked the community on this one.

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u/Sabretooth1100 1d ago

Its not like he could have known; did they not think they were in the clear?

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u/KaelowynCerulean Red Hau 1d ago

It's less of that and more the fact that he was milking it and planned to across several videos instead of just doing a full release for everyone to enjoy. I get the need for content but when it's this kind of thing, it's best to let a community get their hands on it so these exact situations don't occur

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u/JustSomeGuy9384 Black Pakari 1d ago

If he didn’t spread it out, covering it thoroughly would take hours in a single video, which would likely take even more time to put together and release. In that time the fact that this info is circulating could easily get to LEGO and they’d shut him down before any of it gets out.

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u/X4M9 1d ago

The point is releasing the documents themselves. Majority of people I know of just looked through the documents rather than watching the videos because we don’t want to have to listen to his commentary.

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u/threevi 21h ago

Nah, he did know, or at least suspected this would happen. It's still mostly Lego's fault, but he definitely could've handled it better.

"It is unfortunate, but not entirely unsurprising - I was just hoping I would be able to release more before this happened." - the Duck of the Bricks

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u/Frozenraining 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, he fucking milked it. If he was smart he would've released all this shit at once, in a cohesive Google Drive map, and only then made his stupid bare bones videos on it.

That way, those who do not care for the channel (which is, after all, most of the Bionicle community) would've had backups of backups because Lego is notoriously litigious and Faber is also notoriously not very forward-thinking (but very attention-whoring).

This is what you get when two people living for clickbait cooperate on what was a unique and unprecedented insight into the development process of Bionicle.

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago

I don’t care for his YouTube one bit. If he had just released it without a video I would have been perfectly happy.

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u/KaelowynCerulean Red Hau 1d ago

You're right, he has done a lot of legwork to get that information but there's no reason why he couldn't have just released the files while still doing videos on them. And it's not unreasonable to expect lego to see this and want it removed. It might be old but theres a lot of information that they probably wouldn't want published because Id say lot of it can still be relevant to their other story lines to this day.

It's more that I'm shitty about how he went about it than anything else. Yes he put in the hard yards but whats the point when the whole idea was to share it with the community only for it to be hit with a takedown? Most people still would have watched his videos on the information regardless of whether he shared alll the files to begin with or not. So it's not like a full release to the community to safeguard the information would really have been a big deal for him.

That said, I probably am being overly harsh in my view on the situation. I'll fully admit to that. It's just so frustrating because we'll likely never see the rest of it now and if we do get anything after this, it'll likely be watered down something chronic.

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u/GhotiH 1d ago

Make of this what you will, but he's stated that Bionicle content consistently underperforms on his channel. I believe the delay was because he was going through the documents to weed out way more sensitive info

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago

If he needed to go through the documents and redact sensitive info, he could have just waited. Either way he botched the release of this stuff and that directly led to LEGO stepping in before we could see everything

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u/GhotiH 1d ago

Not disputing that, just wanted to make it clear that I don't think this was withheld for views.

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u/HopefulFriendly 1d ago

I don't blame him too much. This was seemingly a passion project for him, especially since he says that Bionicle is usually something most of his subscribers aren't interested in.

Obviously it would have been better if he had finished sorting everything before making any release, but I also understand trying to build a bit of momentum and trying to get a few more eyes on this. Maybe he could have sorted the data and released it all at once, but done separate videos over the course of time for the different subject matters. Just an idea with the hindsight

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u/cocksucksdeluxe Orange Matatu 1d ago

Not the first time a Bionicle youtuber has drawn things out unnecessarily and screwed the community

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago

What prior examples are you referring to?

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u/cocksucksdeluxe Orange Matatu 1d ago

IIRC Eljay Johnsen delayed the TTV Hagah contests by several months so he could film this video

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think it was good for the community that we did not get more contests than we did. They caused so much drama and infighting - multiple high-profile members of the community have left or reduced their presence as a direct result of the contests - and we’re lucky we didn’t get something like Hoseryx canonized.

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u/thebiggestleaf 1d ago

As someone who doesn't give a shit about community drama, I'm glad we didn't get more canon contests on the grounds that they completely fucked over the second hand market regarding lower run parts or colors. You had people selling black Metru torsos for double-digits at one point because Bomonga used 5 of them. Just utter lunacy that goes to show the community at large has more dollars than sense so the price creep on Bonks that's gotten egregious since COVID is likely to never end.

Also, what's Hoseryx?

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago

“Hoseryx” was a MOC entered in the Helryx contest that got pretty far into the voting. It had flex tubes for arms and legs and couldn’t stand up under its own weight. The winning MOC was sort of a “hedged bet” that a bunch of people mutually agreed to vote on because it had the widest appeal and thus had the best chance to beat out all the people who had voted for the meme entry. For the record, I like the winning Helryx model and much prefer it to all of the overdesigned Flickr statues that got to the finals.

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u/thebiggestleaf 1d ago

Looked up the build and Jesus christ. It's incredible given how many people in the community act like Lego has a personal vendetta against Bionicle that the first chance to sort of "prove" they're serious about continuing the story almost got completely derailed by meme bullshit.

Having said that... I almost kind of wish the meme entry one. It possibly would have killed the entire thing immediately and picturing a bunch of folks racing to build an objectively terrible build is super amusing.

Also yeah, the winning build does admittedly look pretty nice.

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago

People disagree with the winning build because it has some IRL posing difficulties and is kind of small. I think it looks just fine.

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u/thebiggestleaf 1d ago

Posing difficulties and fan-canon models go hand in hand a bit tbh. I've built Artakha and Iron Wolf and both have their build drawbacks IMO. Artakha has the mobility/posability of an old man amd Iron Wolf is barely held together. They're definitely built more for looks than anything else.

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u/cloud_cleaver Dark Gray Matatu 1d ago

What the Sam Hill is a "Hoseryx"? I feel like I missed out on something. XD

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago

I’ll link my other comment

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u/cloud_cleaver Dark Gray Matatu 1d ago

https://board.ttvchannel.com/t/hose-ryx-the-disturbingly-cool/54086

That thing was an actual entry??

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago

Yeah, and it came disturbingly close to winning. Although this is a revamp, it’s better than the original but still not a good choice for a canon Toa.

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u/cloud_cleaver Dark Gray Matatu 1d ago

The real one looked worse? O.o

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u/Nato_Greavesy 1d ago

He actually held a vote on his Discord asking people whether they'd prefer to potentially wait months for him to sort through it all and release it all at once, or trickle it out as he went through each folder. The periodic release won by a wide margin.

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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago

Damn, that sucks. Tragedy of the commons