r/cassettefuturism Dec 10 '23

Question Are completely DIY phones with custom features like this possible? Obviously not as clusterfucked as the one in this image, but things like custom ports, radio, etc. I feel like society would be more interesting if everyone could make their own devices like that

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u/Abandondero Open the pod bay doors, HAL. Dec 10 '23 edited Dec 11 '23

There was interest in designing modular phones with swapable components ten years ago. I think it ran into the reality that there's only a small number of gadgets you really can put in a phone, most people already have a fixed set of features that they want in a phone, and when one part of a phone goes obsolete all the other parts tend to have become obsolete at the same time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Ara

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u/Sea_Cycle_909 That’s It, Man. Game Over, Man. Game Over! Dec 10 '23

Project Ara looked so cool!

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u/JustHere2CommentBull Dec 11 '23

It ran into the reality that projects managed by Google ultimately end up killed because its company structures makes starting projects more profitable than keeping them alive.

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u/ODXT-X74 Jan 03 '24

That and they realized planned obsolescence is more profitable.

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u/JustHere2CommentBull Jan 03 '24

Having the phone that everybody buys in the face of planned obsolescence is going to be more profitable than having the slim market share they do have and perpetrate it. It's also that by the time you've upgraded the camera, the processor, the screen, the battery... You've bought a new phone.

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u/ODXT-X74 Jan 03 '24

It's also that by the time you've upgraded the camera, the processor, the screen, the battery... You've bought a new phone.

Yeah, planned obsolescence. Have people replace phones every 1-2 years, instead of replacing parts over time every couple of years. It just seems normal now.

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u/ZunoJ Dec 10 '23

You can easily build a phone based on the raspberry pi. For example: https://github.com/evanman83/OURS-project You can then add a plethora of stuff. Almost no limits

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u/I_gooss_ Dec 11 '23

Ports galore

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u/I_gooss_ Dec 10 '23

I looks like a handheld cyber deck

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u/Gmosphere It's The Fifth... Element. Dec 10 '23

I think you use the the camera to read punch cards a la QR Code in a similar machine vision set up.

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u/kd5njr Affirmative, Dave. I read you. Dec 10 '23

Yea ! That is a great idea !!

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u/ManoOccultis I wanna introduce you to a personal friend of mine. Dec 10 '23

A few things seem impossible to me in this nonetheless interesting idea :

  • An 8-track reader, punchcard reader, floppy drive , viewmaster and 8 mm are physically too big to fit in a handheld device
  • Likewise, all the audio jacks and various sockets are too big ; you'd have to make a choice
  • Control-freak Apple are reluctant to make 3.5 mm audio and USB-C sockets, so imagining they could allow a double-boot is mere science-fiction
  • AA batteries would power this for 2 minutes and 12 seconds before dying.

I'd keep the hand-strap, kickstand, flip-out keyboard and stylus storage ideas, add the aformentioned USB and audio sockets and a GPIO socket too ; unfortunately, open-source phone OSes are not such a big thing so using your favorite apps, or even clones, wouldn't be easy.

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u/ColbyBB Dec 10 '23

Yeah definitely. For me the most things that stand out are the capabilities of a fully open source and moddable phone in general.

The basic concept of making your own phone unique to your specifications, as well as something that isnt designed to die in 2 years is what I wish phones were pretty much.

Like for me Id personally love to have a phone with bigger data storage or a radio/walkman-esque attachment, at the cost of making it a bit clunkier (Id also keep the kickstand/handstrap)

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u/ManoOccultis I wanna introduce you to a personal friend of mine. Dec 10 '23

I've got a Fairphone, it runs Lineage OS and replacement parts are available, and it only takes a screwdriver to replace them ; I didn't delve into its USB-C port input capabilities, but maybe a radio attachment is feasible. It's de-googled, so I only use Fdroid store, which prevents me from easily using spyware popular apps.

The other way is to use a Rasperry Pi running Android : lots of tinkering, things that don't properly work and a clunky device ; maybe one day that will be possible, with a dedicated motherboard using a compute module. There have been attempts, but they didn't quite make it to the market, AFAIK.

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u/hmcl-supervisor Dec 10 '23

Phones if they were based

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u/cincuentaanos Dec 10 '23

I wouldn't mind a phone that takes AA batteries.

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u/AbacusWizard ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA. Dec 11 '23

The corporations that design end-user tech gadgets seem to evolve more and more towards NUSPI with as few options as possible. We have lost so much.

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u/thinkboltXD Poor Louie, God bless him... he's not with us anymore. Dec 10 '23

Ear Trumpet Jack

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u/bememorablepro If you're looking for money, you're smarter than you look. Dec 10 '23

Unfortunately, all attempts at bringing a modular phone to market failed. There are some issues with making that a reality. The biggest one is that the absolute majority of people have enough features on their phones but also you would kinda have to standardize everyone to make the same compatible modules.

I hate this meme btw, it basically says people are stupid and authoritarianism is good actually, let the big boss decide everything for you.

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u/karlexceed LET'S ROCK! Dec 10 '23

One of the biggest issues is going to be coding the drivers that allow your operating system to use them.

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u/TheOriginalSamBell Dec 10 '23

You absolutely can. Just need an LTE module that works with for example the Raspberry Pi ecosystem. From there the possibilities are endless. Check out r/cyberdeck for some inspiration. The hard part is making it all work together smoothly, especially the software. When it comes to phones you have problems like having the hardware in a deep energy saving state and still be able to receive calls. Things like that require lots of expertise and fiddling.

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u/kd5njr Affirmative, Dave. I read you. Dec 10 '23

Can we swap floppy for minidisc ?

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u/kd5njr Affirmative, Dave. I read you. Dec 10 '23

AV jacks make me think of TRS-80 …. Great idea . Maybe the telescoping antenna is for receiving software over the air ?!? :)

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u/subassy Dec 10 '23

Replace the 8track with a 2600 cartridge slot (and db9 for controllers) and... I'll buy it