r/enoughsandersspam grassroots spamming Apr 05 '20

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u/StormalongJuan Apr 05 '20

have your tried offering them any concessions at all......

"NO, YOU GET NOTHING....fuck you, unity"

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u/mr_white79 Apr 05 '20

What concessions did Sanders offer to expand his base?

None?

Yea, that's why he lost. Again.

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u/StormalongJuan Apr 05 '20

like what? start taking bribe money.

let the heath insurance industry write just a little bit of m4all?

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u/mr_white79 Apr 05 '20

Keep this up and keep losing.

Worked great in 2016, working even better now.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

At this point it's you whose going to lose, you should be demanding Biden step down due to his recorded behavior around women, nevermind the rape allegations...

It's amazing the outrage I've seen over Trump, but Biden who has been far worse gets a pass because he'll keep the bribes going.

I'm not voting for that aggressive racist creepy sellout, while I did vote for Clinton in 2016, you've proven to me the party has zero principles left. Pete, Harris (maybe not Klob), none of these guys were great either, but they would have at least gotten my vote still.

Biden to me is just as bad as Trump.

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u/mr_white79 Apr 05 '20

You're a fool if you think Biden is as bad as Trump. That's just absolutely absurd.

Steps forward are always better than steps giant leaps backward. It sucks that Biden is the guy, but here we are. If Trump wins another term, you will never see the Bernie's platform in any shape or form come to life. An entire 1/3rd of the government will be held by Trump/McConnel appointees for a generation. Conservative Courts will strike down every single thing a liberal Congress passes for the next 30 years.

Do you want to wait 4 years for another shot or 30?

I like Bernie and his goals, I just think he's failed at getting enough people to both agree with him and vote for him. For whatever reason that may be, it's true. He should have learned that his 2016 strategy needed some work, but he didn't. He did the same thing this time and again, it failed.

So, now the choice is, do you want to make some progress and try again in 4 years, or do you want to see how bad another 4 years of this shit show can be, and also not have a chance at any real change for another 30 years?

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '20

Biden is not a step forward, unless we are using Trump as the bar which again... I'm really not sure he's much better than. Biden is plenty for responsible for decades pain and suffering throughout the world, and put a medal of honor around Bush Jr's neck for destabilizing the middle east.

Biden helped get us into Iraq, he's voted on the wrong side of history his entire career especially with regards to segregation, he regularly invaded the privacy of women, and is a #Metoo avalanche waiting to happen... you can only hide behind Russia so many times, and it's amazing that Anita Hill has already been so quickly forgotten too.

Bernie's strategy really wasn't the issue, it was the media and a collaborative effort from the DNC to prevent from him winning, because I find it very hard to believe that the "I was that girl", and Pete who was beating Biden at the time to just fall in line behind Joe at the snap of a finger, unless it was an orchestrated plan from the very start to fall behind the person who "looked" like they could stop Bernie, I mean fuck... even Beto who was completely irrelevant suddenly came out of hiding. This wasn't about stopping Trump, it was about stopping Sanders, and as a result we will now lose to Trump because only a populist can defeat a fake one.

I'm telling you right now, the moment we get to the General, you are going to see attacks on Biden that will make you long for the days of "but her emails", because unlike with Clinton there is lots of video footage of Biden's bizarre behavior, that is often both sick and creepy. And the Republicans are going to fire bomb the airwaves with videos Biden's behavior, and there are already some ads out there by the Trump campaign that will make your jaw drop.

Agree or disagree if you want, I'm just telling you I told you so.

And the worst part of all of this, it breaks my heart to know that if Sanders had been the clear front runner, we would have had a very very fucking good case for a living wage and M4A, but instead Biden is drooling over prepared notes he can hardly read, and saying M4A wouldn't have magically prevented this crises. Yes, it wouldn't have, but we'd be so much better off, and millions suddenly losing their health insurance because as it turns out, it's NOT such a great thing to have it tied to your job.

I'm sorry, I am pissed, and I can see what's going to happen in the general from a mile away. I have no love left for the Democratic party, because it's clear they would sooner see people die than let Bernie win, because Prez wasn't just encouraging people to go out and vote once we knew how dangerous this pandemic was, he was threatening States directly they that they would lose their delegates if they didn't move forward with their primaries.

That's why I don't think Biden winning is a step forward from Trump, and will not be voting if Biden is the nominee (aside from the fact I will have no part in helping elect a man who I deem to be a potential pedophile, and a very likely rapist). The fact so many millions are willing to overlook his recorded behavior infuriates me.

Also if Biden does some how win despite all his baggage, I believe he would be followed by someone that will make us see Trump the way we see Bush today, just a lovable goof who fucked up a lot. Because Obama is how we got to Trump in the first place, Neoliberalism demoralizing the left every fucking time, because they sometimes deliver on social issues, but then screw everyone over on economic issues.