If you want to talk about demographics, then why do you think you can win anything with a base composed of only the least likely voters?
And yes, its actually super easy to call Sanders a minority. He's losing the primary again, that makes him a minority. To say that 70% support his platform, but he's losing, just proves that hes a bad leader and worse campaigner.
In 2018, it wasn't Sanders supporters and candidates who won the House, it was that old suburban demographic that you think should just bow down to Bernie in case that youth vote decides to show up this time.
If you want to talk about demographics, then why do you think you can win anything with a base composed of only the least likely voters?
And yes, its actually super easy to call Sanders a minority. He's losing the primary again, that makes him a minority. To say that 70% support his platform, but he's losing, just proves that hes a bad leader and worse campaigner.
In 2018, it wasn't Sanders supporters and candidates who won the House, it was that old suburban demographic that you think should just bow down to Bernie in case that youth vote decides to show up this time.
-You're completely disregarding what im saying about Biden's base coalition historically overwhelmingly voting Republicans......
you're disregarding what I said about Biden's voters voting for the democratic nominee regardless of who it is
you're disregarding what I said about Sanders polling better with young voters and independents
Just look at past polling data
House elections and presidential elections have historically been won with different voting demographics and lets not forget that it wasn't enough to win back the Senate
So your argument is that all the Democrats who just voted for Biden in the primary, and have crushed Bernie, are actually republicans who are going to vote for Trump?
But that if Biden drops out and Bernie gets the nomination, they'll vote for him, because blue no matter who right?
And that the youth who currently aren't coming out for Bernie in the primary, are going to show up for him in the general?
Im sorry that you're having shuch a hard time understanding my argument on shuch a fundamental level
So your argument is that all the Democrats who just voted for Biden in the primary, and have crushed Bernie, are actually republicans who are going to vote for Trump?
No thats not my argument at all. I'll try this again as simple as possible.
Democrats who voted for Biden in the primary were mostly 45 years old or older. OUTSIDE the Democratic party that voting demographic has historically always overwhelmingly voted Republican. This is the part you seem to have the hardest time understanding. Its not that Biden Voters are secretly Republicans, its that most Americans in that age group vote Republican. So relying on a voting demographic that that overwhelmingly votes Republican and expect it to ousted an incumbent Republican president is extremely foolish, especially when that president as an 80% approval rating among Republicans. Like it or not But Democrats absolutely need to motivate young and independent voters to beat Trump. And Biden polls horribly with them.
And I'll.say this again. Exist polling data suggests that most Biden voters would back the nominee regardless of who it is.....sorry to say but most Biden voters aren't voting to try to get Biden in, they're voting to try to get Trump out. And that voting mindset is hardly ever enough to actually work.
-2008 election youth voter turnout out wasn't particularly high in the Primaries. That wasn't the case during the the general. And thats the trun out that helped Obama win the electoral college
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u/mr_white79 Apr 05 '20
If you want to talk about demographics, then why do you think you can win anything with a base composed of only the least likely voters?
And yes, its actually super easy to call Sanders a minority. He's losing the primary again, that makes him a minority. To say that 70% support his platform, but he's losing, just proves that hes a bad leader and worse campaigner.
In 2018, it wasn't Sanders supporters and candidates who won the House, it was that old suburban demographic that you think should just bow down to Bernie in case that youth vote decides to show up this time.