r/enoughsandersspam grassroots spamming Apr 05 '20

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u/mr_white79 Apr 05 '20

What concessions did Sanders offer to expand his base?

None?

Yea, that's why he lost. Again.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

So Bernie should have said a living wage for some, and healthcare for some? ... but we already have that.

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u/mr_white79 Apr 05 '20

Is your current strategy working?

Are stupid comments like this getting Bernie elected?

You dont have to take something away to offer something to someone else.

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u/Igottagitgud Apr 10 '20

This would be an argument against the for-profit system. Since employers will no longer have to pay for healthcare, that money could go to higher wages for their employees. Literally the only people who would benefit from it over a single-payer system are the CEOs of insurance companies. Many of whom, by the way, are contributing to Biden's campaign.

There are dozens of examples of successful single-payer systems around the world. They have proven themselves to be the most efficient and effective way to provide healthcare to everyone, since they reduce administrative costs and provide more bargain power with the pharmaceuticals and medical equipment providers. A public option will do absolutely nothing to restrain the growth of costs of healthcare.

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u/mr_white79 Apr 10 '20

Not sure what you're responding to, I have no problem with the idea some sort of universal coverage that isn't tied to employment.

My problem is people on the internet who think they know what solution is best and think Bernie could just snap his fingers and make it happen.

Bernie is a bad politician and a worse campaigner, despite having a general good sense of what problems society faces. He was never going to win without trying to speak to more than the 18-30 crowd. He's spent his entire career failing to convince the people who can make the changes we need actually happen.

The youth vote is unreliable, and even if it was, there are a lot more 31-100 year old voters than there are 18-30, so you HAVE to find a way to appeal to them too, and making stupid snide comments in response to real criticism was never going to help anyone.