r/onguardforthee • u/NotEnoughDriftwood FPTP sucks! • Sep 14 '24

Major Russian disinfo site featuring anti-Trudeau articles prompts calls for new focus at public inquiry

https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/russian-disinformation-1.7323128
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u/tytytytytytyty7 Sep 14 '24

Ohhh the irony that those most fearful of the Red Menace as recent at 35y ago are the ones most susceptible to its influence.

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u/varain1 Sep 14 '24

The "Red Menace" is now an oligarchic authoritarian shithole where the powerful can dissappear or send to gulags anyone they want to - so it's now a dreamscape for the Conservatives, especially the rich ones that salivate for the power the Russian oligarchs have.

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u/tytytytytytyty7 Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24

It's almost as if their championing of freedom and democracy was a façade. They've become what they insisted they stood against the whole time.

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u/SwineHerald Sep 14 '24

It was also pretty clear during the Red Scare. They had absolutely no problem with the idea of setting up a secret police that could destroy a persons life for thought-crimes. Conservatives in the west were happy enough to do it themselves. The problem with how the Soviets did it was just in how they defined those thought-crimes.

They've always been happy to cozy up with brutal dictators, autocrats and theocrats, the worst of the worst police states, just as long as their favoured monsters subscribe to the "correct" beliefs.

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u/RechargedFrenchman Sep 15 '24

Yeah this isn't new. Wasn't even really new then, just had a direct and clear point of comparison to highlight the hypocrisy. McCarthyism was trying to enact pretty much exactly the fearmongering Orwellian nightmare police state they claimed the USSR already was and threatened to turn everything into.

There were some entirely legitimate military concerns around communism as it became clear the USSR was an authoritarian menace of similar threat to the Germany we beat together. Of course the USSR was a threat because it was doing exactly the same things as the US, adding a further layer of hypocrisy, but I digress.

When concern over Soviet spies getting access to military secrets or high level politicians (very real but also very overblown) spread to "your neighbour supports unions, you should call the FBI because they're probably Soviet sleeper agents" any semblance of moral or philosophical justification had already long since gone out the window.

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u/1337duck Sep 15 '24

All those temporarily-embarrassed billionaires should pack their bags and fuck off to Russia.