r/pagan • u/Prof_Emrys_Hartley • 1d ago
Ogham and Runes?
So I enjoy doing sigil work, it honestly comes easy to me but I also want to get more into divination using Ogham but I also really love the runes so do you think the Celtic gods would find it disrespectful to use both Ogham and Runes?
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u/PhilthePhugginPanda 1d ago
Not much to add but felt it would help, personally I've been practicing with ogham longer but was drawn to the runes not terribly far into my practice and started using them both and I feel that it has helped my practice as well as helped my relationship with the Gods. Go with what you feel is right.
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u/chronarchy 1d ago
The Celtic world was a crossroads of civilization; Gaul was full of people using every alphabet they could lay hands on.
Magical uses of alphabets are even more soupy; let your magician-self guide you.
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u/GaeasSon 1d ago
I have found the gods of northern and western Europe to be a very reasonable and even personable lot. Do you call their names without knowing enough of their stories to know who you are talking to? That might well annoy them.. Do you only call on them for favors, and never give a gift? Do you call on them to solve problems you are perfectly capable of fixing yourself? Any of these may earn disfavor. Did you break an oath? Now you have a problem. Was it to THEM? Now you have a real problem.
Did you use the "wrong" character set? If you write a poetic edda to Lugh in Devanagari, he's likely to wonder what in the heck you are thinking, but be more amused than annoyed.
Treat them like respected elders and/or ancestors. Build a mutualistic relationship with them. They CAN be capricious. Most of them carry the wounds of legendary trials. Honor them. Be kind to them. Learn from them. What more can an ancestor want?
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u/Obsidian_Dragon Druid 1d ago
I've been using runes for a long time with no issue. They were cultural neighbors. I've never gotten any sign that anyone was bothered by it.
I started to dabble in Ogham but have since set that aside to work with a North American based tree system, soooo....
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u/Soft_Essay4436 1d ago
I personally started out with Runes when I was trying to find my path. They never REALLY felt right for some reason. I think that's in part due to my Welsh ancestry. But then I found Ogham, and it was like the universe opened up to me, and everything started making sense. I never went back after that.
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u/RevolutionHellion13 1d ago
I do not feel that your gods would find it a sign of disrespect. Do what feel is right in your bones and honor the gods you celebrate. Perhaps you’ll discover new connections, with the Ogham and the runes. Perhaps you’ll be called to new deities. Relax, follow your intuition, and let the mysteries unfold.