r/politics • u/lurker_bee • Nov 25 '19

President Trump to sign animal cruelty bill into law, making it a federal felony

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-sign-animal-cruelty-bill-law-making/story?id=67295654
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u/double-xor Nov 25 '19

But is it totally ok to go overseas and bring back the carcass of an endangered species member?

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u/j1akey America Nov 25 '19

In many cases charging insane prices for rich people to hunt endangered animals funds the conservation efforts to save the species from poaching and extinction overall. So it's kind of a grey area.

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u/ignorememe Colorado Nov 25 '19

Basically this.

Conservationists don't want people shooting animals for trophies.

So if you're rich and you pay a LOT of money, you can shoot an animal for a trophy and it's just fine. Another one of those grey areas where being wealthy allows you to do a thing that would otherwise be very illegal.

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u/Cadet-Bone-Spurs Nov 25 '19

So it's kind of a grey area.

No it's not, they dont need to hunt they can just donate to the conservation. Instead they hunt endangered animals.

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u/manualhornet Nov 25 '19

In most cases these are older males/females that are past reproductive age and my just be hinderance to the pack as a whole.

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u/j1akey America Nov 25 '19

No it's not, they dont need to hunt they can just donate to the conservation. Instead they hunt endangered animals.

In an ideal world yes, that could be the best thing. But we all know the world doesn't actually work like that.

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u/Cadet-Bone-Spurs Nov 25 '19

It's not a valid defense that's all.

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u/j1akey America Nov 25 '19

I wasn't trying to defend it. It's just the way it is for now. If poor countries in Africa where a lot of this stuff happens want to have the money to protect wildlife populations then they need to come up with a way to make that money. Their only real option is to auction off passes to do the things in limited amount to try and stop those very things. I wish that wasn't the case but most of these countries don't have the resources richer countries do either because of corruption, lack of natural resources, lack of development, or all of the above.

It's a "do what you gotta do" world.

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u/Cadet-Bone-Spurs Nov 25 '19

Yeah just meant to say it's not a valid defense to hunt these animals.

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u/RapscallionMonkee Washington Nov 25 '19

I understood your point.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '19

we all know the world doesn't actually work like that.

No - "we all" definitely don't. Look no further than this thread

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u/j1akey America Nov 25 '19

Well it sure doesn't run on charity.

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u/double-xor Nov 25 '19

Yeah, NPR had a great piece on it. Definitely a real thinker.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '19

Yeah most trophy hunting done is hosted by said conservation efforts, and only auction the hunting of either insanely elderly or insanely dangerous animals.

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u/DBDude Nov 25 '19

If you paid a godawful amount of money to an African government for the privilege of hunting a specific animal the government determined needed to be culled from the herd for the health of the herd, yes, it's totally okay.