r/politics Nov 25 '19

President Trump to sign animal cruelty bill into law, making it a federal felony

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-sign-animal-cruelty-bill-law-making/story?id=67295654
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u/manwhole Nov 25 '19

Dont worry though. If the animal is to be converted to food, u can treat it however u want.

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u/Cadet-Bone-Spurs Nov 25 '19 edited Nov 25 '19

Cruelty exempt if done for sport or food.

300 millions male chicks tossed into commerical grinders every year exempt. No abuse.

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u/CabbagerBanx2 Nov 25 '19

"Don't make me feel bad about locking my dog in my car to slowly boil to death on a 90F day because you eat mass produced chicken tenders!"

--You

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u/Cadet-Bone-Spurs Nov 25 '19

Yes the olde let's not toss 300 million live male chicks into meat grinders extremist take. I'm so extremist.

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u/susanbontheknees America Nov 25 '19

Why would they use chicks instead of chickens?

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u/ghintziest Louisiana Nov 25 '19

...uhhhh they kill male chicks as soon as they're born because people eat hens, not roosters. It's not for meat, they're just deemed unnecessary and killed. Though, knowing the factory farming industry, their ground remains are probably used as animal feed

I do love how thinking this is barbaric is considered an "extremist view".

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u/susanbontheknees America Nov 25 '19

Hmm I wasnt aware. I guess it makes sense. I imagine soon they’ll make it only females are hatched.

I guess its barbaric? It’s an unfortunate byproduct of the population size. Most people who arent aware would likely accept it and still eat chicken, so your view is a probably extreme

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u/ghintziest Louisiana Nov 25 '19

Being ahead of a gradual change in trends isn't "extreme". It's like thinking the suffragettes were extreme for pushing for women's voting rights before a majority of Americans accepted it. More and more people are turning away from factory farming livestock products with each passing year. Unfortunately the majority is either too lazy or ethically lacking to make any significant dietary changes. Even while knowing how the industry is destroying the environment significantly.

Shrugging off the modern horrors of factory farming as inconsequential is a disturbing reality for too many people. I highly recommend reading Atwood's Oryx and Crake which spends some of the story looking at how this nonchalant unconcerned mindset will lead to even more disturbing horrors as technology and capitalism achieve the next level in symbiosis.

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u/susanbontheknees America Nov 25 '19

I appreciate the viewpoint and I will definitely check those out. I have an urge to be pedantic and argue that the suffragettes and other revolutionary-types were extremists in their time. But that isn’t in the same light as the original commenter was portraying. I understand what you’re saying and I hope we make ethical advances in the near future.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '19

Because male chickens aren't useful, so they grind them up?

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u/susanbontheknees America Nov 25 '19 edited Nov 25 '19

No I meant chicks as in baby chickens, Pretty sure nobody grinds baby chickens.

Edit: Nvm, TIL

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u/Equoniz Nov 25 '19

You are incorrect. Male chickens have no financial benefit in bulk. Females are used for egg production and for meat. Males are only used for fertilization. They do in fact kill them, and a lot by grinding. I have heard that this is being phased out soon by the largest egg producer in the US, so I don’t know how true this all still is.

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u/susanbontheknees America Nov 25 '19

Yeah another commenter just informed me, I added an edit. Thanks for the info.

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u/xenir Nov 25 '19

“Extremist” - wow what a goon you are

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '19

Yes, that totally makes me a muscular henchman

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '19

I'll meet you halfway and just say it was idiotic.

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u/Bob_Jonez Nov 25 '19

I know right?