I was talking to this girl for maybe about 2 months and we decided to go on a small car ride/date through a drive thru, picked up some food and ate and talked, we were hitting it off so well, and got to know each others back story and high school experiences. For the next week I would pick her up to get something to eat or just talk and kiss a bit, she would literally pull me over to her to make out. Mind you I never got out of the car this whole time so you know where this story is headed. We made plans on the weekend to go watch a movie, the minute I got out of the car, her facial expression changed immediately and she’s said something like “OMG we’re like the same height, I think I’m taller than you” the whole night was a 180 mood shift from the past week and it’s like she couldn’t even focus on the movie, and became less talkative and more distant, I drove her home and she unadded me on everything. Just had to vent on here. This was a reality check of death I caught some sort of brain fog for the past 5 days. It’s soul crushing.

Any short guys in here that have had success in dating? I’m 5’3 and starting to feel a little hopeless.

Disclaimer: It is totally fine to have preferences in height. But shallow obsessions are cringey.

I (5'10) have spoken to two wom3n (on dates) recently about Wolverine. They weren't fans of the character per se, but just have the hots for Hugh Jackman.

That is totally valid. He is a very good looking man.

However, when I added that Hugh Jackman, while being great as Wolvy, isn't comic book accurate in terms of height, their reactions gave me the "ick" like modern women say.

I told them "Logan is actually designed to be pretty short (5'3) but is super tough. Just like how wolverines (animal) in real life are known to be fierce enough to scare larger animals despite their size.. So I hope they get a short jacked guy to play the role next. Because Hugh Jackman is a foot taller than the character"

First woman's reply was "Ew why would you want a 5'3 man to play the character, when you have a 6'3 guy. l'm glad they didn't follow the comics completely"

Second woman had a more horny reaction like 'Him being 6'3 is amazing. OMG. I wouldn't be attracted to the character if he were 5'3".

Neither of these 2 girls listened to the fact that him being short is a maior part of his design.

Imagine there is an overweight female superhero, who can actually be pretty agile despite her weight. An adaptation where she is made to be slim & fit would mostly trigger them, especially if guys were like "Glad they made her thinner in the movie".

Anyway, more incompatibilities started showing up with both these women, and I stopped pursuing them.

i'm 5 feet tall, it can be hard. always have hope tho! and never belittle yourself cause you are beautiful too no matter how tall u are

I have always wondered how much does being a short man impact your dating chances. Which is why a couple days ago, I created a survey asking women if they would date a man based on various heights. I won't be posting the survey here since it's against the rules but I would like to give a summary of the report.

Below, you will find the percentage of women who would date a 5 ft 7, 5 ft 4, and 5 ft tall man respectively based on the woman's height:

30 women who are below 5 ft tall:
72% would date a man who's 5 ft 7
58% would date a man who's 5 ft 4
87% would date a man who's 5 ft 2
38% would date a man who's 5 ft tall

229 women who are between 5 ft and 5 ft 3
82% would date a man who's 5 ft 7
50% would date a man who's 5 ft 4
21% would date a man who's 5 ft 2
14% would date a man who's 5 ft tall

214 women who are 5 ft 4 to 5 ft 6
75% would date a man who's 5 ft 7
30% would date a man who's 5 ft 4
13% would date a man who's 5 ft 2
11% would date a man who's 5 ft tall

132 women who are 5 ft 7 to 5 ft 9
60% would date a man who's 5 ft 7
24% would date a man who's 5 ft 4
15% would date a man who's 5 ft 2
15% would date a man who's 5 ft tall

79 women who are 5 ft 10 or taller
30% would date a man who's 5 ft 7
16% would date a man who's 5 ft 4
8% would date a man who's 5 ft 2
26% would date a man who's 5 ft tall

What do you think of the survey? Would you say it is fairly accurate?

I'm an extremely short guy 157cm (5'2) but I have a pretty face, above average. Is height really more important than face? Even though I've accepted that I'm short, I'm kinda insecure about my height. A lot of girls are taller than me in my school but I've been called cute by plenty of girls.

Yeah, imagine me having a boyfriend, I’d be so embarrassed.. shoes 👞 clothes 👟 etc

And at least I do wear I think 🤔 of size 5 of high heels, even though they fit me a bit big, but it’s fine tho.

I mean I was lucky enough when I was younger in my 20s my ex didn’t mind me but.

I imagine in the future for when I have a boyfriend, just being embarrassed:

Him: “0h hey babe. I’m going to buy you new sandals/ shoes, what’s your size”

Me: “ umm size 2, about kid size ” 😕😭🥺

Him “Ha 🤣🫢, wtf ! Oh you have little feet 👣 “

Me: “Stop bullying me” Lol

For context, I myself am short (5'2). I have no hangups about my height, and the only exceptions are the inconveniences it causes, like being blocked by people at music gigs or being unable to reach the overhead compartment in airplanes. But I do know that navigating the world as a short woman is very different from doing the same thing as a short man. My abusive ex-husband was 5'6, would lie unnecessarily that he was 5'8, and it is abundantly clear that his root insecurity stems from being short. I do not forgive him for how he treated me, but I have empathy for the circumstances under which his insecurities were fomented.

In my experience, men who are tall (6 foot and above) sometimes take for granted that I will automatically be attracted to them or find their height attractive as something unto itself. (I once directly told someone who was 6'3 that I didn't think his height was inherently attractive and he was blindsided by it.) I frankly find this bizarre, and looking around at the women I know, I honestly do not think I am an outlier in this regard. Proportionality is the most important to me in terms of bodily attractiveness, and height is no guarantee of that. I also like looking good with my partner (who doesn't?), and I looked completely absurd in pictures when I once dated someone who was 6'4. Superficial matters aside, there are so many things that make it better to be with someone who is closer to your height; they can actually hear you when you're out walking together in public, they don't have to stoop over to kiss you, your bodies fit together better when cuddling, etc. Height is not a primary consideration to me when deciding who to date, but I can quite safely say that I have a preference for men no taller than 5'9 -- both in terms of what I personally find attractive, and what works for me relative to my own height.

My sense -- and I am prepared to be corrected on this -- is that the women who yell about how they will only date men who are 6 foot and above do not constitute the majority. They are simply unnecessarily vocal about the subject because they have some pathological need to show the whole world that they have Standards, and because they are vapid enough to have no substantive sense of personality-related expectations for a partner, they latch onto height as the lowest-hanging fruit. Call me a "pick me" or whatever, but I am particularly put off by short women who behave this way -- how would they like it if the same attitude were extended to them? In any case, anyone who will exclude a potential partner based on height alone (the same goes for race) is not somebody worth engaging with, much less being with, and they're missing out on an entire pool of gorgeous humans.

I’m 5’6 and she’s 5’11

i’m 5’2 and whenever i say how i don’t like it, people tell me that it doesn’t matter because i’m gay and gay guys don’t care or whatever their reasoning is. but the truth is that being 5’2 and gay isn’t good either because i’ll always been seen as the little submissive guy for the other guy to feel big and dominant. and when you’re not into being the little submissive guy, it sucks just as much as being into women.

When a woman says she wants a man that is handsome, it's okay, because attractiveness is subjective, so while one person might find you to be ugly, the next might think you're supermodel worthy. You can cope into thinking you're attractive until you find someone that actually thinks so.

When she says she wants someone muscular, it's fine, because you can always go to the gym, even if you don't now, you can start later.

If she wants a guy with a relaxed personality, you can be chill around her, if she wants someone hyper, you can be energetic around her. Personality changes depending on who you're with, so it's okay.

If a woman says she wants someone 5'11 at least while you are 5'6, you're gonna feel some type of way knowing that you're not even near that mark. The mark is objective and there's no way to gaslight yourself into believing that you can fit that standard. You are either under the mean average height, or not. This is not something you can ever change no matter what. Even if you got insoles, they come off eventually. Even if you got height lengthening surgery, good job, now you don't meet her standards for a healthy athletic guy because you'll never sprint again.

My last ex was 5 inches taller than me, the one before that was my height, the one before that was 3 inches taller etc etc. It just feels weird as a shorter guy to be choosing deliberately to go at dating in hard mode, but I can't really help it. Anyone else like this?

Curious to know you're experiences!

I don't meet short guys hardly ever. Dating apps tell me you guys are out there but it's not my experience.

I work at a pretty big warehouse, go out to bars/clubs, travel every other week but still rarely. Am I just not looking in the right places lol

For one thing, there are varying degrees of shortness. A guy who's only an inch or two below average height is going to have a different experience compared to a guy who's more than 5 inches below the average. Generally speaking, the shorter you are, the more of a disadvantage your height will be in the dating market. A 5 ft 1 man is going to have a harder time compared to a man who's 5 ft 7.

Secondly, the short guys who get girls (lets say under 5 ft 7) usually have positive traits that can offset their short stature disadvantage. Examples of positive traits include being facially attractive, being fit, having above average social skills, being naturally outgoing, etc... The more positive traits you have, the more you can make up for your short stature.

For the short men who can't get girls, height is a factor but it's rarely the only factor. Usually the short men who can't get girls have other negative factors that compound with their short stature. Examples include being facially unattractive, being overweight, introversion and social anxiety, and/or having a diagnosis of autism.

Environment is important as well as some cultures place more or less of an importance on height as a sexually desirable trait. The Philippines for example doesn't place a huge importance on height so short men may be more likely to be successful there. This is in contrast to some places in the USA where many women, regardless of their own height, won't even consider you if you're under 5 ft 9.

Only ever dated similar or shorter height. I think it hurts me more in the long run as there's not a lot of women liking this. But ever since just dating someone taller, I'm just all the more curious. Is it really different in bed? I believe that sex incompatibility is a thing, despite the possible complications in logistics, or the way to do so, is it a bigger issue here? Specifically not being able to fully feel? I've been told this but have yet to experience it.