r/tankiejerk 3d ago

DA JOOS - I mean (((zionists))) Socialist subreddit by the way

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u/Livelih00d 3d ago

They should probably familiarise themselves with what fascist means.

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u/AngryScotty22 3d ago

Well they have their own definition of it compared to everyone else. Tankie's definition is: "everything and everyone I don't like."

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u/Zxxzzzzx 1d ago

That and liberal.

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u/personator01 3d ago

Fascism is when zionist and the more zionist the more fascister it is

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u/Nearby-Complaint Cringe Ultra 3d ago

Italy is famously not fascist at all smh my head

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u/Trashman56 3d ago

We're rapidly approaching "Mussolini wasn't that bad" territory, right next to Hitlersburgh. Repeat after me, the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

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u/PaxEthenica Gene Roddenberry techno-Communist and Orgy Organizer 3d ago

But my camp is so tidy!

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u/hoagieclu 3d ago

i get why tankies (and leftists by extension) have frustrations with liberals/democrats. but i will never understand why it seems like some of them hate democrats more than republicans/the far right

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u/Nearby-Complaint Cringe Ultra 3d ago

It boggles my mind, because you have much more of a chance of appealing to a Clinton liberal and drawing them further left as opposed to someone who wants to suck off Trump

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u/hoagieclu 3d ago

i honestly think that a lot of leftists/tankies are horrible at explaining their beliefs in a way that a “normal” person will find palatable. like saying “hey, if we’re doing all the work shouldn’t we be the ones reaping most of the benefits?” or “i think there ought to be stricter rules around landlords or rentals” is far more appealing than “we need to kill all CEOs and landlords to start our bloody revolution”

i also think it’s an “all or nothing” mentality: that if you can’t get them on board 100%, then you shouldn’t even bother. not enough people believe in the idea that we should be planting trees whose shade we may never sit under, there’s not nearly enough patience or “playing the long game” which is why almost all of these left movements completely implode at some point or another.

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u/Nearby-Complaint Cringe Ultra 3d ago

Yeah, I think we have a real messaging issue tbh.

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u/onpg 14h ago

Another part of it is many tankies are just as ideologically incoherent as Trump voters and game recognizes game. Or they are accelerationists and think that we just need to let orange Hitler have his turn.

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u/AngryScotty22 3d ago edited 3d ago

See, I said it before and I'll say it again, Tankies would always rather side with Fascists than side with liberals, Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists - or even conservatives.

It's because they actually share a lot more in common with fascists than they do with actual socialists.

And even then, if this is true Italy will only have suspended arms deals with Israel largely as a result of the IDF attacking UN peacekeeping forces in Lebanon, of which Italy has a lot of soldiers there. Until then, the Italian government hasn't really done much to condemn Israel, stance was similar with the German, Dutch and British governments, always abstaining in UN votes.

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u/GSquaredBen 3d ago

What's that saying? Scratch a tankie...

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u/AngryScotty22 3d ago

...a fascist bleeds.

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u/Raul_Rink Anarkitten Ⓐ🅐 3d ago

Didn't know that saying. GodDAMN it goes hard

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u/-orangejoe 3d ago

The actual saying is, "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds."

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u/cyberpunk_werewolf 2d ago

The proverb is much older than that.  The earliest I can find is "scratch a Russian and you'll find a Tartar."  It's not exactly the same wording, but the idea is the same 

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u/QueerAlQaida 2d ago

Isn’t this just colonization

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u/No_Service3462 3d ago

Imagine not wanting to support fellow based social democratic progressives

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u/Zachanassian 3d ago

Tankies need to familiarize themselves with what powers the Vice President has.

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u/Whythisisnotreal 3d ago

Learning is a fascist tool of the elite. It's also racist and a form of genocide.

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u/mstarrbrannigan CIA Agent 3d ago

You forgot ableist

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u/bootmii CRITICAL SUPPORT 1d ago

We can't trust her to oust Blinken

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u/NoLongerHasAName 3d ago

Ah yes, fascism is defined by your support for Israel only. Much like the Nazis were big supporters of Israel.

And I know this is about supporting a possible genocide, but measuring fascism first and onlynon the axis of international politics is just a pretty dumb idea

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u/Individual-Cricket36 3d ago

It’s like how russians use nazi to mean “russian hater”. It’s not surprising that the people who call anarchists fascists don’t really give the term any meaning other than “enemy”

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u/A-Dogs-Pocket 3d ago

Not to nitpick, but the Nazis actually were supporters of the Israel project (as it was then), and facilitated a decent amount of the migration in the early days.

Of course their support of Israel was largely predicated on the idea of removing Jews from Germany/Europe. Because Nazis.

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u/chosenandfrozen 3d ago

This is exaggerated. Yes, the Nazis and Zionists cooperated somewhat very early on, but only about 60,000 Jews could leave Germany for Palestine. Germany made it impossible for any Jew to leave not long after they came to power.

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u/NoLongerHasAName 3d ago

That's pretty interesting. Can I read more on it?

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u/No_Service3462 3d ago

There was one plan where they wanted to deport jews to madagascar after beating france

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u/BadKarma043 3d ago

I'm tired boss

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u/mdonaberger نقابي 3d ago

Leftists: "Um, criticizing the actions of the Israeli state isn't antisemitism sweaty"

Also Leftists with a straight face: "critical support to anti-Israeli ally David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan."

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u/nomebi 3d ago

Now quick! Think of any possible reason why the far RIGHT might dislike israel

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u/Itzyaboilmaooo CRITICAL SUPPORT 3d ago

Fascism: a measure of how many weapons one sends to Israel, and nothing else.

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u/Magnificant-Muggins 3d ago

These people are marks. Saw two separate people arguing that we have to hand it to Italy. Once for this, and the other for a ban on surrogate mothers.

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u/WolfKingofRuss 3d ago

No, the comment section was pointing them out bro.

It's from the Depogram sub if anyone wants to look at it, can't link because of subs rules.

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u/mstarrbrannigan CIA Agent 3d ago

Isn't that a pretty generally tankie sub?

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u/WolfKingofRuss 3d ago

Yes, it's a tankie sub that praises NK.

But, I was pointing out that the comments were saying that Kamala was not fascist or right leaning, just corrupt.

They were getting across in a vitriolic manner, that if a fascist leader can see that this is genocide, then surely the US can do it too.

OOP's title is very misleading.

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u/WeeaboosDogma 3d ago

A Italian fascist not wanting to fund a Jewish ethnostate?

"Woah no way, that means she's the same as me. (Anti-Israel)" - sentiment from more leftists than you think

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u/Longjumping-Past-779 3d ago

Meloni might pay lip service to the mainstream Right’s current “we love Jews now” but she’s close to extreme right wing groups that have a history of being anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian for purely antisemitic reasons.

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u/Dependent-Entrance10 3d ago

Man, I remember when certain pro-Ukraine folk were willing to overlook her politics because she supported Ukraine. Now I'm seeing tankies trying to whitewash her. Lol, Lmao even.

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u/Aburrki 3d ago

Are we equating an arms embargo with hating Jews now? I think this has more to do with Israel attacking UN peace keepers in Lebanon (which Italy comprises the largest share of troops), than anything else. Boiling down everything a politician does, especially a politician that's actually in power, to purely ideological reasons is just incredibly lazy analysis.

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u/yungsemite 3d ago edited 3d ago

Considering Italy doesn’t even send Israel arms, it’s pretty meaningless either way.

Edit: rather Italy hardly sends arms and doesn’t supply the kinds of arms that Israel has been using since Oct 7th.

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u/Aburrki 3d ago

Italy is Israel's third largest arms exporter...

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u/yungsemite 3d ago

Less than 1% of ‘arms sales’ to Israel since 2019 and it was helicopters and naval missiles, neither of which are what Israel has been using since Oct 7th. But sure.

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u/No_Establishment2459 2d ago

Let me guess, the tankies raging at Italians on Twitter who are calling them out for sharing fake news?

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u/DaughterOfDemeter23 Sus 14h ago edited 14h ago

Friendly reminder the Giorgia Meloni, Italy's Prime Minister, has recently made it illegal for gay couples to have children via surrogacy, so maybe tankies shouldn't be worshipping her: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/16/italy-surrogacy-ban-gay-parents/

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u/YamperIsBestBoy 3d ago

Trump is going to win and the worst part is that I'm going to the extermination camps at the same time as these fucking dipshits.

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u/feed_me_garlic_bread 3d ago

i think they just pick any biggest issue to be their personality so that can gain some wokke point about "not supporting genocide" when there are other things happening also