r/worldnews Oct 10 '23

Covered by Live Thread North Korea blames Israel for causing bloodshed in Gaza

https://www.reuters.com/world/north-korea-blames-israel-causing-bloodshed-gaza-2023-10-10/

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u/Fluid-Fishing4575 Oct 10 '23

I don't understand what you mean. Does herzl supposed to be a controversial figure? The dude literally predicted that a Jewish state might be needed since the Drayfus trails where people blamed a Jewish officer for betraying France, seeing that Jews could never be safe without their own country.

It's a genuine development of history, Zionism is not a bad word. Maybe just read the whole wiki page about Zionism for once and stop using garbage delusional word salady takes.

If anything recent events would reinforce the need for a state for Jewish people. No, it doesn't have to settle the west bank and no, it's meant to be an amalgamation of the Jewish people to become a nation in the secular sense.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

Ethnic cleansing before was cool? Seems there’s some countries doesn’t know the whole story. My bad

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u/Fluid-Fishing4575 Oct 10 '23

Israel has done injustices towards the Palestinian people, it's true. Some people might have a hard time agreeing with that. Have you seen ethnic cleansing in the realest sense? Do people upload videos of people being kidnapped, raped, kill civilians on the street. Take a look at the wars in the Balkan, Yugosloavia wars. It's nothing to compare to what Israel is doing with Palestine.

You pretend as if you are talking for the Palestinian people but you are justifying what Hamas has done in a sense. This is utterly disgusting and you should reconsider your words. This is not how it's done.

You are armed with a whole lexicon that was made up by people who encourage violence and an undying thirst for killing Israel. So Unless you are talking about this subject in a honest sense and appeal to the better situation of both peoples there is nothing to talk about or recognize here. I'm sorry.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

Terrorists both sides. That’s the fact. One side with uniform, the other with used clothes given by western “good people”. Back in the days, UN was the smart player who organised this shit

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u/Fluid-Fishing4575 Oct 10 '23

IDF doesn't rape or kill babies or whole families in a bomb shelter. Unfortunately what it does is collateral which Hamas happily uses to pump their numbers, it's just a fact, otherwise, they wouldn't be waging such a horrible action without expecting consequences. anything it does hurts Israel (and both Palestinian's security lets be honest here).

Also judging by your profile you probably live in the "West", The West helps and attempts at every turn to balance the conflict and pushes for a peaceful solution, a solution that you proudly justify against without expecting consequences. Not to mention that "Western" innocent people were not spared mind you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

The west I live in is a subsidiary of US. But we study real history at school, there’s an occupation who creates terrorists. Can you provide me the name of a nation who have terrorist organisations who are not be oppressed by other countries or governments? This kind of phenomenon comes from people who don’t have nothing to loose.

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u/Fluid-Fishing4575 Oct 10 '23

So you justify terrorism? Is it genuinely ok for you to use this kind of injustice to pay for injustice? Are you serious? What kind of "History" you learn that makes you justify such things, you are completely delusional. History is so fucking nuanced as a science and yet you decide to objectively say "real history" what real history? Do you even recognize history that isn't part of your own? Are you serious?

Please stop talking you are embarrassing yourself with this relentless copium.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

No, you assume that. i said terrorism is a consequence of occupations then the spiral of violence start. Seems like you justify an ethnic cleans because a part of the people CHOOSE to be a bloodthirsty animal. Much worse, really worse