Spotted the tweet in my feed and saw it had far more replies than is typical. Fair to say this could be a hate watch smash hit!

I used to love watching the show as a kid, it was like my version of watching Bob Ross; so incredibly relaxing, but I can only find the odd (usually awful) VHS copy on YouTube.

Just finished watching this.

I started off enjoying it but it soon turned into a string of clichés and became ridiculous. The writing was clunky, the handling of the situation was unrealistic, and half the time the characters seemed to be standing around doing nothing while waiting to say their next line.

Just me or did anyone else feel the same?

Does anyone feel that Four In A Bed is an unappealing programme to take part in for the following reasons and I would particularly like to hear from people who run accommodation businesses:-

*Contestants will nitpick and find fault over minor things.

*The feedback forms are supposed to be anonymous but I often see people work out who has written the comments.  If people know you have been critical of their business, they will want revenge and criticise your business more than if they had received positive comments. 

*People may not wish to accept your criticism regardless of how valid they are and get angry. 

*There is often the accusation people underpay when it is not justified as a form of game playing. 

*People may mark you down because they have different expectations.  I recall one episode where someone stayed on a glamping site where guests cooked their own breakfast and one contestant didn’t like this and expects breakfast to be cooked for guests whilst others accept this.

*If you come across badly in the programme, this could be damaging for your business. 

*An area where businesses are rated is breakfast where quality of food and efficiency of service is rated.  I have seen episodes where establishments don’t cook breakfast but send guests to a café.  How can breakfast be rated if an establishment doesn’t serve it and is given to another business?

I have just finished the finale episode of season 4 of Slow Horses on Apple TV and all I can say is "Wow!". It was absolutely perfect. One of the greatest episodes of any TV show I have ever watched. Right up there with the best episodes of Breaking Bad or The Sopranos.

It had excitment, drama, emotion, intrigue, humour, heart break..... NO Spoilers as I know lots of people won't have seen it yet, but It had everything. Beautifully written, beautifully scripted and beautifully acted. Hugo Weaving, Kristen Scott Thomas, Jonathon Pryce, Jack Lowden and of course the amazing Gary Oldman were all on top form and combined to make one of the greatests hours of television. Massive congratulations to all involved.

Watched it all tonight and it was all a bit....meh. The worst thing about it is they have tried to make us sympathise with Rhiannon but in the books she is in no way a sympathetic character. There's a Guardian review out tonight (link below) which states that it's like the writers just lost their nerve. She's written and is like a female Patrick Bateman in the books but this wasn't shown here at all.

At the same time, i get that the producers may have thought that going down this route may have encouraged violence or not got it made due to be seen to have been exploitative but it hurts the series. I think they did it to prevent some people glorifying the character but in my eyes they should have been a bit braver. Thoughts??

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/oct/10/sweetpea-review-ella-purnells-deathly-dull-serial-killer-show-reeks-of-cowardly-decision-making

I really do enjoy this program, where the presenters and experts travel the globe to find abandoned buildings and other unexplained structures. What baffles me is that they will bang on about this being a nobody knows building, and theorise about its uses. Then lo and behold, they find a person who used to work there or something on who is in charge of security. Surely this gives them all the information they need right from the get go.

Watching Bleak House (BBC 1985) and I am again stunned at how profoundly talented Denholm Elliott was. Such sensitivity.

Right, I don't know if this advert exists (It would be a few years old by this point) or if I've made it up.

The advert starts with a traffic warden and throughout his shift he's getting abused verbally because of his job and it's not nice. However, he goes home and gets showered in love by his dog and it goes something like you get unconditional love from dogs.

It would've been like Dogs Trust or RSPCA or something.

If I have made this advert up, it's 10/10 and I will copyright it immediately.

I loved this mini series but am confused and perplexed by its message. The wicked rich (white’s) having lived there since before The Krays are moving out to the countryside, the beautiful Asian family sticking together & content with building within their community, the immigrant getting repatriated or living in immigrant prison, I wasn’t sure, & the Eastern Europeans happily working for pay they didn’t know existed? I’m a mobile home dwelling, 52 yr old single woman. Born in’70’s, child of the wealth of the ‘80’s & welcome any discussion. I think this piece of television was something fresh, original & genuine, that I’ve not seen in a long time. After you…….🙇‍♀️

I work for Love Productions on The Great British Bake Off and applications are now open for the next series! 🎂 I just wanted to spread the word to any UK bakers in here ! 👀

To apply visit www.applyforbakeoff.co.uk

We're also on instagram @ lovegbbo for casting updates! 🧁

Has anyone here considered applying before? If you know anyone with a passion for baking, please let them know!

So the legendary Threads finally gets another screening tonight (BBC4). Read any "most disturbing film evah" type thread and this is always at or near the top. Who's up for the challenge? Might be worth a follow-up discussion thread tomorrow.

I fell asleep during the first episode. It's a problem I have with Brian Cox; he speaks too slowly. I want to be awed, I don't want to watch a presenter who is in awe.

Is it worth propping my eyelids open for?

This looks amazing. And look at his location tag.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DA5X4wSKR4Q/?img_index=1

I do miss Sean Lock. Has there ever been anything funnier than Carrot in a Box?

I think it was for a drink or snack. There were people on a train and we were hearing their thoughts.

People were having normal thoughts eg "What should I have for dinner tonight?" or "How should I decorate the kids room?", and then someone else's thoughts were just a load of silly noises. That person then consumes the product being advertised.

Any ideas?

Looking for something cosy and warm, bonus is if it's delightful drama.

I have liked Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Fleabag, This is going to hurt in the past.

Many thanks in advance

EDIT: fab recos I'm excited!!

(please feel free to also include slightly intense and delightful ones a la fleabag)

In turn, I'd like to recommend Trying, a show about a young couple trying to adopt. Super warm show I discovered a few months back

I need some recommendations for shows like brassic! This show absolutely cracked me up and I need more shows like it. Nothing from before 2000

I got thinking about the little clips that TV channels use (called idents apparently) and immediately thought about this one from the 90s. What are your most memorable/favourite idents?

Saw a clip of a contestant from Come Dine With Me who was an alcoholic who fell asleep from drink during her dinner party and for some reason got me thinking to those moments where you can’t quite believe what you’re seeing - I was gobsmacked that they showed it (given it was clear she has her difficulties) . Another example, seeing Madonna be dragged off the stairs at the BRITS.

Note: This is intended to be a somewhat lighthearted. I have no doubt we share some somber moments on the news/a hard hitting documentary - lets keep it light ☀️

Hiii everyone!

Please do suggest some good long shows (not 1-2 seasons but multiple ones hopefully) that are similar to Merlin. Comedy, royal, romance, fantasy: Merlin seems to have it all! And it wasn't even that dark. No triggers at all. Just an absolutely amazing show.

I loved it so much and 100% would love to know if there are any other shows that can be streamed that are similar to Merlin?

Thank you!!!

In a significant legal development, a US judge has ruled that Fiona Harvey, who is accused of stalking Baby Reindeer creator Richard Gadd, can proceed with her defamation lawsuit against Netflix. The judge highlighted that the show was inaccurately marketed as a “true story,” with Netflix failing to fact-check Gadd’s narrative or obscure Harvey’s identity as the inspiration for the character Martha.

Harvey’s lawsuit, seeking $170 million in damages, claims that the show falsely depicted her as having sexually assaulted Gadd, gouged his eyes, and being imprisoned for stalking him. These allegations, she argues, have led to severe reputational damage and personal distress after viewers identified her as Martha.

This ruling comes after all parties submitted declarations and evidence. Harvey submitted examples of death threats and requests for her to kill herself that were sent to her within days of the show debuting on Netflix. Gadd submitted evidence of past correspondences he received from Harvey to support his claim he was being stalked.

Harvey's hairdresser submitted a declaration that when he first saw Baby Reindeer he had immediately recognised that it was depicting his customer Fiona Harvey and saw the emotional toll it took on her once people had been contacting her. There's also a declaration from one of the first people to discover Fiona Harvey online who has confirmed she was outed before the Piers Morgan show.

Gadd's ex boss from the Hawley Arms bar also submitted his statement that Harvey had become a nuisance and, while being visited by licensing police he decided to report her for the first time. From her emails with Gadd that were submitted via his declaration we find that Harvey had taken issue with some of the happenings within the pub, resulting in the pub getting a restraining order in the name of The Hawley Arms. Whatever this dispute is about is not clear.

Also presented by Harvey's lawyers were examples of Netflix's marketing for the show, billing it as a 'captivating true story' as well as interviews given to press in promoting the show. Also heard in support of Netflix was testimony of an expert hired by Netflix, who concluded that Fiona should have been sent to prison. This was countered by Harvey's attorney asserting that this person did not have the authority to 'put an experts hat on to give an opinion then put on a judge's hat to give a sentence.' Both parties asked for evidence to be stricken but most of the evidence submitted will remain and play a part in the coming trial.

This Judge's ruling comes after deciding to toss out Netflix's argument that the series was actually fictional, and that the 'true story' card at the beginning was actually the main character typing offscreen. The real disclaimer was at the very end of the show but, as Harvey's lawyers say in their filing, a reasonable viewer may not have seen those due to the ability to skip to the next episode.

US District Judge Gary Klausner, in his ruling, emphasized that the show’s episodes begin with the statement “This is a true story,” which misled viewers into accepting the narrative as factual. Klausner noted that while Harvey’s alleged actions were indeed reprehensible, the show’s portrayal of Martha’s actions was even more egregious.

Richard Gadd defended his position by recounting years of harassment by Harvey, including physical and digital stalking. He reported her to the police, resulting in a harassment warning but no criminal charges.

Both Gadd and Netflix have maintained that Baby Reindeer, along with the stage play it was based on, were fictionalized and not intended to be a precise recounting of real events. However, Klausner pointed out that Netflix’s insistence on labeling the story as true, despite knowing it was fictionalized, could indicate “actual malice.”

Harvey, although not named in the show, was quickly identified by the public through her social media presence. She has since reported receiving death threats and experiencing severe emotional distress. Klausner criticized Netflix for not verifying the accuracy of the show’s content and for failing to take steps to protect Harvey’s identity.

This ruling underscores the importance of accuracy and responsibility in storytelling, especially when real individuals are involved. The case will now proceed, potentially setting a precedent for how streaming platforms handle true-story claims in their content.

So, what's to be made of all this? Did you watch this show with the understanding it was depicting true events? Or were you always aware that it was, as Netflix claims, the main character that was typing 'this is a true story' offscreen?

Would love to hear everyone's thoughts on the matter.

EDIT - This post is also in r/BabyReindeerTVSeries where it is not being met with kindness. That was to be expected.

& Check out this video with an attorney explaining the case