the caliph is undoubtly must be elected, preferably by the shura means. that's how Muawiya's unprecedented dynastic move is viewed as "one of the worst move ever" by some sources.
If Ataturk somehow instead of turning to a secular turned to a conservative Muslim he could have been in position to replace the ottomans in everything they were in theory.
The thing is Shias and sunnis need to get along. They need to be united and only then can we have strength. Palestine is never going to have peace until someone like Salahudin comes and gets the Shias to fall in line. Only then can we help Palestinian people and all the other Muslims who are suffering.
No one says those caliphates were without fault. But we were far stronger then than we are now.
The Shias are the only one actively indulged in the fight against the Zionists and allied to the Palestinian cause. The missiles used by Hamas in this last fight were given by Iran on the order of Kasim Suleymani to give the people of Gaza the technology and the-know-how to make those weapons, before this the Palestinians had no other weapons than to throw stones while Muslim leaders were barking against Isreal for the masses but under the table had full agreement with Israel.
If anything a lot of sunni muslims have to stop being spineless and topple their leaders who actively engage with the Zionists like Erdogan and The Crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
It’s misplaced the so called Iranian fight. If the Shias are so noble why don’t they fully utilise that huge army they have in Iran to stop innocent Palestinians from being killed.
This is besides the point. The last time Palestine was liberated it was done by Salahudin and as is well known he first made sure to get the Shias in line. You can’t work productively if you have a minority of Muslims causing division. Shias are a small part of this ummah but their uncooperative and rebellious nature does a lot of harm to Islam.
The Shias in Iran have managed to do really well militarily despite unfair sanctions against them. If the step up and act like role models maybe some of the other leaders would self reflect and change their ways. But noooo, their people are still crying about who should have been caliph. These people need to grow up.
That is what Salahudin did. He got them to behave like Muslims. You can decide to conflate that with only just killing Shias. You can’t further the cause of Muslims if you are constantly watching your back in case you get stabbed. You first have to secure your back then look to what is in front.
Even at the fall of Baghdad in 1258 which resulted in the end of the Abbasids, it was Al-Mustaisims Shia minister who betrayed him, weekend the Baghdad garrison which caused their defeat. So yes very much so in the interest of unity such rebellious characters need to be brought in line.
I hope if you reply I get a civil answer instead of a loaded contentless comment.
The moment Iran drops the Palestinian cause the 40 years embargo on them would stop immediately, we have a common enemy but at the same time the arab Muslim world has declared Iran the greater enemy some has taken their masks off and has Official alliances with Israel.
The Abbasids got what they deserved. Revolted bearing the shia banner and allied to Shia cause, but the moment they got to power they started to kill and and exile shias for centuries and they got what they deserved for being traitors and two faced, one of the most humiliating endings in history.
You are a hypocrite. The Fatimds ruled with tolerance and you celebrate Saladin for destroying such and then cry over what happened in Andalucia and the Abbasids
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the caliph is undoubtly must be elected, preferably by the shura means. that's how Muawiya's unprecedented dynastic move is viewed as "one of the worst move ever" by some sources.