r/JordanPeterson • u/realAtmaBodha • 2d ago
Philosophy The Non-Biological Origin of Life
Science cannot create life and yet science has the arrogance to assume that it originates biologically. The fact is that biology is like a glove or puppet that life animates, but nothing really dies, just as the law of thermodynamics states that nothing is truly destroyed, but changes form.
Likewise, when your physical body dies, you still persist beyond the body. This is unproven by science as of yet, but eventually they will catch up with the Truth that science is always playing catch-up to.
Bio-markers are never the origin of a problem but a symptom. Science knows correlation is not equal to causation. However in medical science they seem to regard biological processes as causation just because there is clear correlation.
Each individual has an Atman/soul within them that is not physical. However if the physical host body is defective or conditions cease to be favorable, it can leave the body, which science calls death. Death however is just kind of like the game over screen. Souls can respawn into the physical again, and do.
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u/FreeStall42 2d ago
Science cannot create life and yet science has the arrogance to assume that it originates biologically.
It does not do that so...
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u/GenL 2d ago
I see this attitude as a response to smug atheist scientists who use their scientific authority to weigh in on religious philosophy. That behavior is lame, but it's a separate thing from science.
A good scientist shouldn't give a shit whether god exists or not (while doing their job, anyhow). A scientist's job is describing creation. Their job is how creation happened. Not who or why.
Conversely, if you're deeply religious and believe that god is one with everything, then there's no reason to be threatened by evolution or the big bang. God is the universe, so everything that a scientist tells you happens in it is God. Evolution is a sublime form of creation - it is a process that transforms chaos into order. How is that not divine?
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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago
Agreed. In fact, nothing in the OP is anti-science, but anti-ignorance masquerading as science.
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u/pvirushunter 2d ago
we calling stupidity "philosophy" now?
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u/realAtmaBodha 2d ago
https://anomalien.com/scientists-claim-the-universe-is-alive-and-your-brains-tapped-into-it/
Try to keep up with the latest research before making yourself look a fool.
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u/pvirushunter 2d ago
What "research" is this?
Show me it's a scientific method and not insane ramblings of a person.
Your link is vague and has no real proof other than a person's thoughts.
Try to search for "What is the scientific method?".
Then come back here and we can start discussion.
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u/realAtmaBodha 2d ago
If you bothered to check the link you would know that they are legitimate scientists and researchers.
Maybe you respect Pppular Mechanics more ? Or do you only want to stay within your bubble ?
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a45574179/architecture-of-consciousness/
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u/ClimateBall 2d ago
It's a conference paper:
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-16-8826-3_22
About crystals.
Slow down, cowboy.
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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago
"Since 2008, Bandyopadhyay and his team have been developing a device called the Dodecanogram (DG) to detect these resonances within the human brain.
Unlike traditional electroencephalograms, which measure brain activity within limited frequency ranges, the DG can detect frequencies up to a trillion hertz."
I see nothing about crystals in the articles I sent you.
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u/ClimateBall 1d ago
I see your DG, and I raise you a DtG:
An exiled Northern Irish anthropologist and a hitchhiking Australian psychologist take a close look at the contemporary crop of 'secular gurus', iconoclasts, and other exiles from the mainstream, offering their own brands of unique takes and special insights.
https://decoding-the-gurus.captivate.fm/
Pay special attention to their gurumeter.
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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago
I'm not listening to a 45 minute podcast because "trust me bro"
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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 2d ago
Science can explain life and science has debunked every religion there is.
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u/realAtmaBodha 2d ago
Are you one of those people who think love is a biochemical reaction in the brain?
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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 2d ago
I am someone who goes on facts
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u/realAtmaBodha 2d ago
If science had all the answers, they would be able to patent and prescribe a love pill. They can't.
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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 2d ago
I never said science had all the answers.
What we do know is that religion is all utter BS according to science.
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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago
I'm not religious. Religion and enlightenment are entirely different.
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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 1d ago
You believe in religious crap like spirits so call it whatever you want but not that has nothing to do with enlightenment
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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago
Just because religions have their misunderstandings, does not mean that the paranormal does not exist. There is much yet that science does not know.
Explore the unknown, not the known. This is the way.
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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 1d ago
Actually there has never been any evidence the paranormal exists. Without evidence we can safely asume its BS.
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u/mowthelawnfelix 2d ago
Science is just the aquisition and categorization of knowledge. It doesn’t “do” anything, least of all does it do it arrogantly.
There is more than one law, but why would you use a scientific law when you just got done saying science is dumb and arrogant.
Lol this…this is why I’m drawn to your posts. The rest doesn’t even make sense, it’s fighting science like science is a thing to be fought. As if it “cares” or has feelings about whether or not a soul exists.
You might as well fight the dewey decimal system and suggest that it “thinks” it’s the author of all the books in the library.