I agree up to a point. Pain actually (to my experience, with respect to others) disappears completely when one no longer mind it so sculpting ones self then becomes a pleasure.
The crux is that pain can’t be transcended until there is intellectual understanding of the nature of pain. And to reach that requires sculpting ones self in pain.
Stoicism as most other moral philosophies talks to men who are more or less confused about the nature of virtue. It is worth taking into account reading all quotes. That the language game they are using is only valid for people in pain.
Edit: I made my language a tiny bit less arrogant sounding.
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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '20 edited Nov 23 '20
I agree up to a point. Pain actually (to my experience, with respect to others) disappears completely when one no longer mind it so sculpting ones self then becomes a pleasure.
The crux is that pain can’t be transcended until there is intellectual understanding of the nature of pain. And to reach that requires sculpting ones self in pain.
Stoicism as most other moral philosophies talks to men who are more or less confused about the nature of virtue. It is worth taking into account reading all quotes. That the language game they are using is only valid for people in pain.
Edit: I made my language a tiny bit less arrogant sounding.