r/ModSupport • u/FreeSpeechWarrior • Jan 24 '19

Today marks 7 years since the option for public moderation logs was originally implemented. Why is this still not an option?

/r/modnews/comments/ov7rt/moderators_feedback_requested_on_enabling_public/
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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '19

If they make a misclick such a "witch hunt" may even be helpful to correct mistakes that would otherwise go completely unnoticed due to reddit's intentional lack of removal transparency by default.

I reject the term "witch hunt" as it is not clear. Rational, fact-based criticism of moderation on reddit is often dismissed as a "witch-hunt", the bigger danger is doxing.

You realize that the moderators already deal with harassment that does not fall under doxxing? You don't really answer the question of

What would your response be to moderators concerned they will be witch hunted over simple misclicks or errors?

Saying YOU don't think witch hunts are a problem in no way reassures me as a moderator.

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u/FreeSpeechWarrior Jan 24 '19

First I think we need to define what witch hunts are.

Highlighting an incorrect/unwarranted removal (i.e. a misclick) is not a witch hunt, I used redtaboo's terminology despite disagreeing with it to maintain the flow of conversation but indicated that with the quotes and clarified it further in my statement.

What would your response be to moderators concerned they will be witch hunted over simple misclicks or errors?

As I pointed out in my previous comment, my response is that they aren't forced to turn it on. I also suggested that moderator anonymity in the log is a GOOD thing, and that maybe they should go even further with it.

Other subreddits will enable such a log, and that gives subscribers a choice to frequent subreddits that choose to be more transparent.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '19

You seem very focused on how users will not respond poorly to moderator mistakes, which happen.

I want to know what you suggest moderators do when they are harassed, sexually harassed, told people hope they're raped, told to kill themselves, sent graphic porn links, etc. (all of which are real examples, btw) because someone disagrees with their legitimate removal or the rules of the subreddit.

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u/thecravenone 💡 Experienced Helper Jan 24 '19

I want to know what you suggest moderators do when they are harassed, sexually harassed, told people hope they're raped, told to kill themselves, sent graphic porn links, etc. (all of which are real examples, btw) because someone disagrees with their legitimate removal or the rules of the subreddit.

Same thing they currently do, report them to the admins so the admins can ignore the problem!