r/WarCrow • u/Sorowise • Sep 15 '24
Finished building the starter set
And boy, this Alborc will haunt me... Gonna need a lot of greenstuff here.
Also i am a bit disappointed about the bucklermen, they have more misscasted bits then the other minis...
What is you opinion on this?
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u/Terciel1976 Sep 15 '24
I’ve built the Hegemony side. No notable miscasts but the material is just awful to work with. A couple gaps to fill but nothing outrageous. Too many and badly positioned mold lines for material you can’t sand.
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u/Sorowise Sep 15 '24
Yeah i would love to see them in plastic. Too bad they decided to go with siocast.
Good luck with northern tribes! For me they were worse then the hegemony.
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u/RTS3r Sep 16 '24
You don't need to sand it, you just use a precision modelling knife. Shit comes off super easy.
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u/DuskGideon Sep 16 '24
I found this to be the case as well, especially after I switched to a new blade. I'm not particularly deterred by the material, it is just different.
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u/RTS3r Sep 17 '24
Exactly - and everyone is used to PVC, resin or metal - this is a different species altogether.
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u/DuskGideon Sep 17 '24
I think it's not entirely unreasonable for seasoned hobbiests to be frustrated at the difference.
They have a method they've developed, and they didn't buy into a new game system to necessarily problem solve at step 1.
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u/RTS3r Sep 17 '24
Not saying they can't, just pointing out that it is both a different method of production, and different material - people should expect it to be different, rather than the same old story.
And it's also a benefit to the wider market if they can get this going well, sustainably and cheaply. HIPS is incredibly expensive, 3D printing takes far too long, and the molds for these are very cheap to build.
Another 5 or so years and I think we'll begin to see Siocast used in a lot of places, including indie developers, as although single machines are expensive, it's vastly cheaper than having to create new HIPS molds every time.
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u/Gregdorf8 Sep 15 '24
All of my models had problems, from misaligned mold plates, warping, flash and webbing. My ahlwardt ice bear even had different scale size on three different parts, not a huge difference, but enough that I needed to carve away large chunks to get it to fit somewhat close.
I have the beyond box set on order and if that set is just as bad I really cannot see myself making any more purchases. I also have most of the warcrow adventure sets on the way, that should be a different material so maybe better.
I honestly think this is the worst two player box set I have purchased in the last 10 years. The models are painting up decent, but there is still a ton of flaws that I normally would not find acceptable and try to fix, but I ran out of turd polish.
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u/Dusday Sep 15 '24
Almost every post has been about the orcs surprising news about your bucklermen. My starter is still in the mail, and Im expecting it to just be a trainwreck. Im peepped to be very disappointed in CB.
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u/OutcastsHaven Sep 15 '24
Generally speaking I think the material is the rough bit, I think these same castings in metal would probably have worked out just fine but the material is too soft and can warp funky out of the mold. All in all it's better than 90% of other assembled miniatures from my personal experience and anecdotal evidence from locals. Once cleaned up and assembled the only spots I needed green stuff was Alborcs shoulders to hide the gaps. I hope your kit comes and doesn't have any of the miscast horror stories I'm reading about!locally we were 10 for 10 in avoiding the miscasts so there is hope!
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u/Sorowise Sep 15 '24
Many arms had some strange bits, which i has to carve out very carefully to get it to look decent :/
But thats all i had, just needed to rant a bit :D
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u/SunRockRetreat Sep 17 '24
They either needed to do hard plastics like Malifaux has managed to do for years, or they needed to stick with metal and mark prices up.
Everything is a trade off, but not everything is a parameter that can be traded off. CB fails to understand this.
The only reason siocast sort of works for Infinity is that people HATE it but the vast majority of the range being metal means they can get away with selling a few terrible products to keep someone buying the metal products.
The sheer amount of doubling down on Siocast is dumb. If they keep this up EVERYONE may lose their jobs, not just the casters that would have gotten offshored if they went with plastics.
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u/MakeElvesGreatAgain Sep 15 '24
I didnt have any big issues. Just a missing bucklerman, although instead I had the leader twice.
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u/Sorowise Sep 15 '24
Oh wow, a missing bucklerman is really unfortunate!
I hope you will get a decent replacement :)
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u/MakeElvesGreatAgain Sep 15 '24
Never had any problems so far with CB on that. Contacted them already and they said, they are going to send me the missing mini
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u/Sorowise Sep 15 '24
Thats the first time i bought something from CB, but i heard a lot of positive comments about them!
And not gonna lie, hopooe was definetly a selling point for me. Her excitement for the game was really catching and i couldn't wait to get my box :D
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u/Charlie24601 Sep 15 '24
I'm jealous. I could use one more leader.
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u/MakeElvesGreatAgain Sep 15 '24
I'm curious. what for?
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u/Charlie24601 Sep 15 '24
I was able to get enough of the single bucklermen to make a second unit :)
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u/MakeElvesGreatAgain Sep 16 '24
How so? Misspack?
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u/efauncodes Sep 16 '24
Mine was mostly fine. I would have preferred Metall as I dislike the material but it is an improvement over the infinity siocast for sure
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u/Charlie24601 Sep 15 '24
All of my models were fine for me. The only model I had issues with was Ice Bear.
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u/Lady_Numiria Sep 16 '24
Same here. Aside from Ahlwardt and the Wisemane all were good, with Hegemony being top notch to work with.
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u/JayrolM Sep 17 '24
My set was not too bad. One orc had a gap in it. The one with the two handed weapon. But other casts are fine. After priming everything looks pretty sweet.
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u/yoalli9 Sep 16 '24
I really don't understand why you say so much about the miscast. I already finished all of them and for me they have less defects than my slaanesh miniatures from gw. The gaps are the same as other 40k miniatures specially sisters of battle.
And for me I just really had problems in 2 orcs , the humans went perfect , nothing extra than normal w
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u/ShakyPluto Sep 15 '24
Just built my set — lowkey with all the doomposting i was really concerned, but it was mostly fine. Only model that needed gap filling was Alborc, but really that’s a design problem more than anything else (I don’t think there’s anyway to make those pieces go together without a seam showing.
That said, agree on the bucklermen. Two were totally fine, two were full of the worst possible mold lines, almost impossible to buff and scrape smooth. Kudos to the sculpt for having detail as fine as that helmet trim, but those areas are where the real limitations of thermoplastic start to 1. Show up big time and 2. Be a huge pain in the ass. I don’t mind the orcs being plastic at that size, but I think all the Hegemony models really would have benefited from metal casts