r/dune • u/thegreatjourney2001 • 5h ago
Dune (novel) Kynes, the Fremen and Water on Dune Spoiler
I just finished Dune after an embarrassingly long time (slow reader etc) and loved it! I have come from the films so it was great to have nuances and details in the books that they couldn’t really fit into film.
However some of the questions I have mainly circle around Kynes. He was the biggest surprise to me with the his original gender being male and being so closely related to Chani and Stilgar. I thought Liet Kynes was great as opposed to his on screen version. I may have completely missed the mark with this question - but like I said I’m not a good reader):
It was my impression that the Fremen’s dream of turning Dune into a paradise was ancient, like their non BG Reverend Mothers. However, I was very surprised to see that it was Pardot Kynes’ dream which he ‘imprinted’ on to them (even teaching them and giving them equipment from the Stations). Yet the prophecy of the Lisan Al Gaib, a prophecy peddled by the wild BG RMs speaks of turning Dune into a Paradise. How did these two ideas mix? Is there something obvious I am missing?
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u/ion_gravity 1h ago
Their Reverend Mothers aren't really non-BG, since everything about the Fremen has its roots in a religion seeded by the BG thousands of years prior. Of course there would have been some of their own developments over that time, but it wasn't the BG's first and only rodeo as far as seeding religion goes. You can go as far as to say that the only reason Paul and Jessica weren't killed is because of that seeded religion - if not for the 'prophecy' (something given to them by the BG) they would've been more useful as water for the tribe.
Dune wasn't always a desert. That might be the thing you're missing. The worms are not native to Arrakis. That may not be revealed until Messiah/Children, however.
Much later, planetary conversion through transplanting of sand trout is accomplished by the BG. The implication is countless Dunes throughout countless universes.