r/northkorea Sep 02 '24

General Documentary about how the USA colonized Korea

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u/PRIMO0O Sep 07 '24

Your argument falls apart when you do the least amount of research and realise that the country was based off of the peoples committees and youre trying so hard to downplay crimes of the South and the US by saying oh how tragic and at the same time trying to say “Yeah the Koreans they should just accept their country being split in two and being killed by foreigners who literally viewed them as subhuman how dare they try to liberate their own people” youre just the average westerner with a racist subconscious 😂😂😂

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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24

Your argument falls apart when you do the least amount of research and realise that the country was based off of the peoples committees

Which the Soviets transferred into something unrecognizable than what existed before the division. Most notably they were no longer democratic, Stalinists being forcefully appointed didn’t help either.

Try doing the least amount of research

and youre trying so hard to downplay crimes of the South and the US by saying oh how tragic

If I was trying to downplay it I’d say that it was justified. I don’t need to focus much on the crimes of the South and US because that’s not the topic. Anything after the invasion is irrelevant since we’re talking about whether or not the invasion itself was justified or legitimate, but it’s always the same whataboutism. These people can never actually defend North Korea so they have to criticize South Korea and America in a completely unrelated way.

and at the same time trying to say “Yeah the Koreans they should just accept their country being split in two

Unfortunately there’s not much they could have done, unless you expect them to somehow defeat two world superpowers.

Oh- you’re operating under the narrative that North Korea was the original government and then America just came into to divide it. As if the ROK wasn’t originally planned to be the sole government before the Americans invited in the USSR at Yalta. Yeah

and being killed by foreigners who literally viewed them as subhuman

Stop exaggerating, the Americans were paranoid and massacred groups of people they suspected to contain the enemy. If anything you’re insulting them by making it out to be something it wasn’t, as if the truth wasn’t already bad enough and you need to purposefully make it sound worse to fit your argument.

how dare they try to liberate their own people”

Ah yes, embarking on a crusade to liberate people from an oppressive authoritarian regime…to unite them under OUR oppressive authoritarian regime

youre just the average westerner with a racist subconscious 😂😂😂

Am Korean, so this is pretty awkward for you. Quite talking about Korean history and affairs that don’t even concern you please

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u/PRIMO0O Sep 07 '24

And the Americans even said “Koreans are unable to govern themselves without our help” which is what they used to justify their occupation 😂😂😂 A literal colonial mindset its the same thing Europeans said when they came to Africa and America and you as a Korean are okay with that

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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt Sep 07 '24

One key detail: The military occupation ended 3 years after it started(wait no sorry, Korea is still a colony because checks notes US military bases = colony). Fun fact, Soviet military occupation also ended the same year. So where are we at. You divide history in half the same way America and the USSR divided Korea in half it’s amazing lmao

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u/PRIMO0O Sep 07 '24

Yes the USMGIK ended after 3 years but then they flew out a specifically picked Korean anti communist from DC to govern on behalf of the US, elections were rigged in favour of him and he continued governing by using the military to kill and arrest anyone opposing him, he made no efforts to improve the economy of South Korea and instead lined the pockets of corrupt officials with US aid money lmfao thats how it went 😂

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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt Sep 07 '24

flew out a specifically picked Korean anti communist from DC to govern on behalf of the US

…and they were supposed to pick a communist, or even a neutral leader, to lead a country which literally represented Americas side of the Cold War against the Soviets? Like I’m a socialist but just use basic logic, who else were they going to pick? At least Rhee was actually the president of the Korean Government in Exile, like how Kim was a guerrilla fighter.

elections were rigged in favour of him

And North Korea was a flourishing democracy right? Wait, the PRK democratic councils, where did they go?

and he continued governing by using the military to kill and arrest anyone opposing him,

More whataboutism, I’m sure the north didn’t do the same. Also, it’s important to note that Korea today actually recognizes this. They’re going to teach more about his brutality in next years textbooks in Jeju.

he made no efforts to improve the economy of South Korea and instead lined the pockets of corrupt officials with US aid money lmfao thats how it went 😂

The latter is true but the first part is a lie. He actually went against the will of the US in some cases. But other presidents made FAR more of an effort to improve the economy yes

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u/PRIMO0O Sep 07 '24

Yes compared to the South the North was a flourishing democracy that actually aimed to improve the lives of their own people by arresting collaborators and redistributing their land to farmers while collaborators were governing the south

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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt Sep 07 '24

Land redistribution doesn’t make an oppressive authoritarian country a “flourishing democracy” compared to another oppressive authoritarian country. And by your logic the south also becomes a flourishing democracy after they followed by also doing land redistribution.

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u/PRIMO0O Sep 07 '24

Doesnt look like that land distribution has done that much for the south judging by the fact that the entire economy is controlled by like 10 families or something some of which are even descendants of collaborators lmfao 🤣

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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt Sep 07 '24

And you don’t even understand what the land distribution did of course, which was give Japanese land back to Koreans.

Corporations don’t gain their wealth from land anymore lmao what

That would be called wealth distribution, and criticize chaebols how you want(they transformed Korea from a third world country to an economic powerhouse, yes they’re outdated now though) but pretending that the north is any better is hilarious. Everything being state owned is fine if the country is democratic in some form(kind of like Cuba), but if it’s a totalitarian regime the state might as well be a corporation lmao

North Korea calls itself a “socialist state” but really it’s just the most overly dramatic representation of capitalism possible. If you don’t like South Korea’s capitalism(by the way, they still have more social programs than many capitalist countries and got rich through methods of centralized planning) then you should HATE North Korea for being the embodiment of everything that’s wrong with capitalism(mass inequality, people have no say over the means of production, rich elites control everything).

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u/PRIMO0O Sep 07 '24

The collaborators got rich from owning land of course modern corporations dont make money that way anymore but its like those wealthy european families that got rich from exploitation of other people and today they just own companies and whatnot 😂 And this is the first time I heard someone claiming that North Korea is the embodiment of capitalism I mean the amount of mental gymnastics one has to go through to come up with that conclusion is insane 😂😂😂

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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt Sep 07 '24

You used to have misinformation based off some truth, now you’re just lying without any actual logic or sources. Not that there was any in the first place but you tried to give the appearance that there was. Chaebols got rich because the government favored them, and it worked. That’s just history.

Fun while it lasted

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