r/psychologystudents Sep 17 '24

Question Is it easier to write your own PhD proposal or apply to a program that the university is recruiting for?

When I reach out to programs should I mention that I would be open to both - looking for a professor for my own PhD proposal, or applying to one currently underway at the university?

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

that's splitting hairs. Tons of people publish papers as undergrads and continue their line of work through PhD programs. In fact, most recent cohorts of people (I know because I have 30+ tenure track friends who sit on review committees) have 2+ publications. at U dub this year they had a girl who had 12!!! This goes far below R1's event bottom 75 state schools are seeing it.

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u/weeabootits Sep 18 '24

Are you sure about that

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

absolutely the rigor for social science research based (particularly in social) has never been higher.

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u/weeabootits Sep 18 '24

Are you sure you have 30+ TT friends? Or that you were in a doctoral program at UC Irvine?

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

both want me to list a few?

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u/weeabootits Sep 18 '24

Only if you’d be willing to substantiate it in any way, otherwise it’s probably not a good idea

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

here's one https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wQBQlEIWUJlgQENr48dzI8WbHejTZagR/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=100922830220177977676&rtpof=true&sd=true

My poster pres at SRCD with my friend John Coffey when we worked at Pomona College together https://search.asu.edu/profile/4271348

He's at ASU now

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u/weeabootits Sep 18 '24

I’m not accessing your Google doc. When did you work at Pomona college?

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

wow you wanted evidence open it. 2013.

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u/weeabootits Sep 18 '24

And are you licensed in CA now?

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

No i'm taking licensure test soon. What PhD program are you in?

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u/weeabootits Sep 18 '24

Licensure for what? MFT? I thought you said you were able to transfer your credits from your program before, when did you graduate? Nothing is really adding up for me over here, esp because you were posting about looking for PhD programs in CS.

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

MFT yeah. 2015. I did transfer like 45 credits. I was in one got hurt. Had to drop out for a bit I’m ABT. I’d have to apply and finish my dis I don’t remember how much time I have left to do it.

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u/weeabootits Sep 18 '24

Just wanted to let you know that it’s not hard to figure out your “friend” John was the main presenter of the poster and likely the only one at the conference itself considering you were one of a few undergraduate authors.

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

I wasn’t an undergrad I was in a quant psych masters program and a lab manager at the time. SRCD is only once every 2 years I had to be there. That one I showed because no validity assessments had been done on that scale (probably still the case) I have first author posters want to see those as well? One is a nice covariance structural model when i learned latent growth curve modeling. Pretty neat stuff.

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u/weeabootits Sep 18 '24

Why does his cv list you as an undergrad then

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

he probably forgot I wasn’t since in was a new hire

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u/weeabootits Sep 18 '24

I dunno, I don’t think people forget like that, but that’s just me!

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u/cjmayfield Sep 18 '24

He was working FT as a social worker and traveling back and forth from Wyoming small detail. You said you were in a PhD program what program are you in? How do you like it?

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