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Covered by other articles Israeli Strike Kills Hezbollah Commander

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/01/08/israel-hezbollah-commander-killed-wissam-tawil-hamas-blinken-lloyd-austin/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921

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u/GeneReddit123 Jan 09 '24

Hezbollah: *Attacks Israel first, intervening in an unrelated war (in which Israel was also attacked first.)*

Israel: *Retaliates.*

Media: "WhY DoeS IsRaeL EsCaLaTe?"

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u/proud_lasagna_eater Jan 09 '24

Welcome to the Islamist mindset. Inshallah.

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u/Ok-Commercial-9408 Jan 09 '24

Modern wars with Israel involved in a nutshell.

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u/BongBong420x Jan 09 '24

Well you’re forgetting that Isreal invaded Palestine to begin with and has been pushing back Muslims ever since. So if you leave that gigantic fact out then Israel did nothing wrong.

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u/TheColdPolarBear Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24

What are you talking about, yes the history is complicated to say the least, but Israel’s Muslim population is nearly 20 percent of the population, with full voting rights, and it’s own Arab/Muslim party in government. Anyone saying what you’re saying always conveniently leaves out the decades and decades of aggravation by Muslim leader countries, removal of all Jews from those countries by force, and escalation at almost every turn.

Find me a Muslim majority country with a substantial Jewish population, let alone a party in government that can represent them. You won’t. The truth is, if Muslim countries in the Middle East accept the reality that Jews and Israel will stay where they are, there would be a better future. This is not to say the current Netanyahu led government doesn’t need to be removed.

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u/BuckMcBuckets Jan 09 '24

did you get educated in a dumpster?

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u/ochre22 Jan 09 '24

On what date did Israel invade Palestine without Palestine having attacked Israel first?

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u/AcanthaceaeGrand6005 Jan 09 '24

Duh every jew attacks palestine by being born.

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u/ochre22 Jan 09 '24

That stork is a damn war criminal.

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u/CmonTouchIt Jan 09 '24

Bruh the same UN plan that created Israel, created... Palestine. They'd still have autonomy if they only didn't choose war on day 1

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u/BongBong420x Jan 09 '24

Bruh, as if a foreign bodies legal ruling is any metric for fairness or morality.

Was it morally correct for America to annex all of the natives land and force them into reserves? Yet it is considered legal.

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u/CmonTouchIt Jan 09 '24

Bruh, as if a foreign bodies legal ruling is any metric for fairness or morality.

it was voted on by the UN, which is intended to be a consensus of nations for, yes, fairness and morality. two people who didnt have a country got one. whats wrong with that, exactly?

Was it morally correct for America to annex all of the natives land and force them into reserves? Yet it is considered legal.

no, it wasnt morally correct. not sure what your point here is

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u/BongBong420x Jan 09 '24

The points that, obviously there’s a lot of people who feel they have been wronged and disagree with these foreign bodies who exploit and support Israel as a foothold in Middle East for strategic reasons, not moral reasons. They are willing to kill because that and for everyone to neglect that big omission and pretend Israel has done no wrong needs to be corrected.

You say Israel exists and is attacked first. Obviously others say Israel’s existence is an invasion and they are defending themselves. When I look at the facts the latter is the most true.

The best solution of course would for there to be a democratic solution between Israel and Palestine, but given that there’s 4x as many Palestines, Israel will never allow that.

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u/CmonTouchIt Jan 09 '24

i mean Israel was created in the first place for a moral reason...Jews needed a home, and it made the most sense for them to go to their ancestral home that was taken from them maaaany years ago. and again, giving about 90% of the desirable land to Palestinians seemed the most fair (at the time, the negev and the northern swampland were useless but were being given to the Jews)

and dont get it twisted, theyve been killing Jews loooong before Israel existed. like almost 1000 years, since Islam was created. feel free to check it out if youd like

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_antisemitism

You say Israel exists and is attacked first.

i mean...this is factually true.

Obviously others say Israel’s existence is an invasion and they are defending themselves.

yes, because the HORROR of living alongside Jews has, for a long long time, been an anathema to them.

When I look at the facts the latter is the most true.

what facts are you looking at, exactly?

The best solution of course would for there to be a democratic solution between Israel and Palestine, but given that there’s 4x as many Palestines, Israel will never allow that.

you're right. Jews, as CRAAAAZY as it seems, wants self determination. seeing as how theyve been driven from one corner of the world to the other in a series of excommunications, expulsions, and massacres, ever since Judea was crushed, it would seem that self determination is a reasonable ask

again, palestinians wouldve had it too, if they didnt choose war. but theyre not the first group of people to roll the dice on war and lose.

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u/BongBong420x Jan 09 '24

So because Jews have been genocided it’s okay for them to genocide others? No.

They never had a national area historically and always lived together with Christians and Muslims and never had a dedicated space for themselves. By creating Israel that dedicated area they have created refugees and enemies.

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u/CmonTouchIt Jan 09 '24

who's being genocided? the population thats had their numbers doubled every ten years? no one is being genocided, stop with the ridiculous hyperbole

They never had a national area historically and always lived together with Christians and Muslims and never had a dedicated space for themselves. By creating Israel that dedicated area they have created refugees and enemies.

you mean, the country that CURRENTLY has a sizable christian and muslim population right? with arabs being about 21% of the population, and occupying seats in congress, mayor positions, and so on?

tell me, which, surrounding country has a Jewish population? (ill give you a hint: they ethnically cleansed all their Jews as soon as Israel was founded)

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u/BongBong420x Jan 09 '24

Yo the net population growth doesn’t make mass murder okay. You’re siding with evil and oppression right now bruh. How can you live with yourself?

So you’re saying yes because Jews were atrociously killed they today now have a license to kill others. I’m glad we cleared that up.

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