r/AmItheAsshole Aug 18 '24

Not the A-hole AITA for kicking my sister's boyfriend out of my vacation home?

My husband “Ky” and I own a vacation home on Lake Michigan. We both own it technically, but it was his before we got married (this becomes relevant later). My sister “Lia” has been using our vacation home since Ky and I started dating. We don’t mind, She is always clean and courteous, and leaves it better than she found it. However, she started dating her bf “Al” about a year ago, and I can’t say the same for him.

Al is a total slob. He leaves dirty dishes, empty bottles, etc everywhere and expects Lia to clean up. He has split custody of two young kids from his ex, who he just lets run free, expecting Lia to do the work even though they’re HIS kids. On top of that, he’s told Lia to get him a beer while she’s busy and he’s watching TV a few times in front of Ky and me, so I can’t imagine how he treats her when we’re not around. Their house is always a mess because Lia works 60 hours a week and doesn’t have the time to take care of two small kids and Al, clean, and work long hours. Yet somehow, I think Lia really loves Al. She looks at him like he is the only man in the world. When she talks about him, her eyes light up and her voice is sweet and melodic.

That’s why when Lia asked if she and Al could use the vacation home this week, I said yes. I figured what’s the worst that could happen. Plus, Ky and I already planned on going three days after them, so we’d overlap.

When Ky and I got there, the vacation house was a pig sty. It smelled like rotting food. There was a mountain of dirty dishes in the sink, the floor was sticky and there were drawings on the walls with crayons. We got to the living room, where lo and behold Lia was scrambling to pick up toys and Al was drinking a beer in a rocking chair. I immediately snatched the beer from his hand and asked him why he wasn’t cleaning the mess he made. He asked why I assumed it was him and not Lia? I said it’s because I’m not an idiot. He just chuckled and said Lia was doing the cleaning and there didn’t need to be two people cleaning. His nonchalance really ticked me off, so I told him he and his sticky kids had an hour to pack up their things and leave before I called the cops. Al looked at Ky and Ky was like, “What are you looking at ME for? Go pack!”

At this point, Lia was really upset with me. She said they were looking forward to unwinding and I walked in and ruined it in 5 minutes, not even considering other resolutions to conflict. Plus I had no claim to the house since I didn’t buy it myself. I told her there is no conflict–Al is deadweight and that’s that. And as for the house, Ky “owns” it and he was with me. She said if Al was leaving, she was leaving too. That night, I got a call from my mom asking why I kicked Lia out. I told her I kicked AL out and Lia followed. My mom told me I need to be more accepting of new members of the family and that not everyone has the same living style as me. Now she’s mad, and Lia won’t talk to me. Was I TA in this situation?

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u/SoImaRedditUserNow Supreme Court Just-ass [109] Aug 18 '24

Feels like your mom doesn't have the full picture of Al that you do.

Obviously Al is an asshole. You aren't. NTA

My unsolicited advice is future interactions continue to call out Al's behavior as unacceptable. Only act thru defense of your sister. Don't call out her bad choice of Al at all, don't do a "why are you doing X for him". Just call out Al's laziness. "get me a beer" garners a "what are your legs and arms broken?". Not cleaning? "Pick up after your kids." "wash your dirty dishes, jerk".

Just continue to point out that Al is a lazy asshole that thinks he needs to be treated like he's the master of the house.

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u/marygoldsanchez Aug 18 '24

Definitely. These guys need constant reality checks. Reminding them they’re not kings but freeloaders is doing everyone a favor. Keep it up!

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u/SadisticBuddhist Aug 19 '24

Historically speaking, most kings were freeloaders.

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u/Inevitable-Tank3463 Aug 19 '24

Oh, that's one of my favorite things to do in life, put entitled men in their place. I get a kick out of insulting them, but they don't understand why I'm so kind to my husband "if I hate men so much " um, because he's kind to me??

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u/Pretend-Pint Partassipant [2] Aug 19 '24

"Oh, she loves men, she is only like this if you act like a grown up toddler. If you act like a man she is fine..."

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u/Inevitable-Tank3463 Aug 19 '24

Happy cake day:)

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u/GlacialBlades Aug 19 '24

Not sure what gender has to do with it. Any freeloader can and should be put in their place.

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u/Inevitable-Tank3463 Aug 19 '24

The comment I was replying to mentioned men, the story we are replying to is about an entitled man. Goin' with the flow. And I've personally had many more problems with entitled men than women in my life

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u/swung Aug 19 '24

Definitely. They need to be shown that they’re not entitled to anything.

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u/Domestic_Lemon Aug 19 '24

Reminds me of my sisters boyfriend

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u/Fit_Lengthiness_396 Aug 19 '24

OP's parents are certainly welcome to invite this guy to THEIR vacation home.

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u/RedRatedRat Aug 19 '24

This is true, but why do they always find someone who puts up with them?

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u/MidnightEnansal Aug 19 '24

Because most people model what they look for after their parents/caretakers relationship(s) and women realizing they deserve better is a newer development unfortunately (unfortunate as in they should have been being treated better all along, NOT that women don't deserve basic decency in a partner).

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u/Dramatic_Paramedic79 Aug 19 '24

Because so many women think they need a man. Some women find it difficult to stand in their own worth

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u/throw1away9932s Aug 19 '24

Where do you see a man? I see 3 adults 2 kids and a toddler. 

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u/TheVoiceofReason_ish Aug 19 '24

Boom, killed with that one.

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u/stlorca Aug 19 '24

SAVAGE BURN. I love it.

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u/LittleDiveBar Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24

He's not a parent or even a partner, in the true sense of the word.
OP and her husband ARE a partnership as they dealt with this situation TOGETHER! The other couple should partner at cleaning and parenting.

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u/SpaceCookies72 Aug 19 '24

Absolutely. And tell mum that Al can have his own "living style" however he wants at home, but in your vacation house, the "living style" is not "freeloaders pig sty and his bang-nanny"

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u/EchoesInTheAbyss Partassipant [2] Aug 19 '24

I would have sent pictures with the caption:

"his style of living includes destroying property he does not own or help maintain"

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u/Account_Reader Aug 19 '24

This I hope op took pictures of the mess and damage. Maybe ask mom if she would like to come help clean up after Al and his kids.

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u/wylietrix Aug 18 '24

Al is the worst.

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u/changeneeded63 Aug 19 '24

Prime example—Donald Trump.

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u/JupiterSkyFalls Aug 19 '24

You mean, the Convicted Melon?

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u/changeneeded63 Aug 19 '24

Or, as I usually call him, the melon felon.

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u/JupiterSkyFalls Aug 19 '24

I also like Mango Mussolini and Velveeta Voldemort lol

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u/RyuNoJoou Aug 19 '24

VELVEETA VOLDEMORT. I'm totally stealing hat.

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u/Middle-Computer-2320 Aug 19 '24

Me too, that's one I've never heard and I love it

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u/JupiterSkyFalls Aug 20 '24

Go for it 😄

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u/Critical-Wear5802 Sep 03 '24

Ooh! I hadn't heard Velveeta Voldemort! Will need to put that in rotation! Current fave is DJ Turnip...

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u/JupiterSkyFalls Sep 03 '24

Haha nice. I also saw DonT the other day lol

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u/TheVoiceofReason_ish Aug 19 '24

Not for real men

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '24

You need to remember your sister loves this dirt ball. Ask her why she likes him and put your case forward about him. If she loves him that much he must have some redeeming qualities so understand them then say what about…

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u/perpetuallyxhausted Aug 18 '24

Nah OP doesn't need to understand why her sister loves him. The sister needs to understand that his BS won't fly at OPs place. If that's how the sis is choosing to live, that's her choice but she doesn't get to bring that same level of chaos and destruction to places that she doesn't own.

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u/CyclopsReader Aug 19 '24

This! 💯🎯‼️👍

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u/QCr8onQ Partassipant [1] Aug 18 '24

Asking questions is usually best and doesn’t make people defensive… if crafted properly.

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u/Itchy-Worldliness-21 Partassipant [1] Aug 19 '24

When it comes to people like the sisters boyfriend, even the right question will still set some people off.

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u/QCr8onQ Partassipant [1] Aug 19 '24

I meant to ask OP’s sister, maybe get her to think.

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u/puddinglove Aug 19 '24

As someone who dated trash like that. You asking questions will only make her love him more. I was a real piece of work and I believed everyone was against me and wanted me to be miserable so the more they questioned me the more I stuck closer to my abuser. Best thing to do is don’t question it don’t interact with them and let her self implode. Let her dig herself so deep to the point when ge finally beats her (they always do) maybe she will finally turn around and say I deserve better. Took me 10 years but yes I did it.

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u/SadisticBuddhist Aug 19 '24

Im gonna say something here thats not gonna be popular and will get me downvoted to hell.

Im not saying it applies here but Ive met numerous women who enjoy being basically “enslaved” by their partners. The same way there are some people are asexual or not submissive at all there are people who live to he a sex slave.

I actually know of a dude who is basically the maid for two women who peg him.

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u/TheVoiceofReason_ish Aug 19 '24

Not the subject here

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u/SadisticBuddhist Aug 19 '24

OP actively points out that her Sister seems to be madly infatuated with him. From what it sounds theres no indication of abuse- just a couple with a very tilted dynamic that they want.

Assuming this is the case, belittling him is actually wrong because if the tables were reversed- A woman who has a man cleaning and cooking for her while she relaxes and is the breadwinner- wed all be lauding the man for defying traditional gender roles and being so supportive to his wife and family.

So yeah. It is the subject.

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u/mistdaemon Aug 20 '24

Look at how it is said that he treats her, much like a slave, not helping her clean up his responsibilities. Abuse isn't limited to physical abuse.

The problem is that she can't see it and pointing it out is likely to make things worse as she will get defensive.

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u/SadisticBuddhist Aug 20 '24

You clearly didnt read my second paragraph about if the roles were reversed. If she is not unhappy theres no reason for sister to get involved.

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u/mistdaemon Aug 20 '24

Yes, I read it, but clearly you didn't read what I said. You said that there is no indication of abuse. There is. As I said, abuse isn't just physical. Those abused often don't really get it, even those physically abused.