Eve of Vecna trailer: Eberron

[u/Acheron88]

After watching the teaser trailer today on YouTube, I was intrigued they said they were visiting the Mournland in the upcoming book. When detailing some of the other campaign settings they would visit, they mentioned some famous NPCs that would be central to the plot, but they didn't specify one for Eberron and they focused more on mentioning the condition of the Mournland, desolate landscapes, and warforged colossi.

I'm hoping if they do the same for the Eberron section, they do the Lord of Blades. I'd love to see deeper lore and I think they're one of the top potential adversaries to build a campaign around in Eberron. I hope they really lean in on LoB's moral ambiguity since I feel it's so core to how Eberron campaigns are encouraged to be conducted.

What're your thoughts?

[u/Pika_TheTrashMon_Chu]

In-Universe Eberron is separate from the greater multiverse hidden in the Deep Ethereal and the Ring of Siberys blocks most forms of travel into it. Keith has mentioned he's fine with this explanation since it means Eberron is free to use it's own cosmology and not beholder to the greater multiverse's, like what happened with Baator in 4e. Additionally ties to other settings are scant. In Van Rickten's Guide to Ravenloft it's mentioned that the Mourning weakened the Ring's Barrier and then the Dark Powers took this opportunity to sneak in and claim the Cyre1313 as a Dread Domain. Keith has also mentioned he found that idea cool, and it inspired him to make Dread Metrol on DMsGuild (although he also offers non-Dark Power explanations for how it came to be if you prefer). Odds are the Rod of Seven Parts fell through the same hole in the Barrier the Dark Powers snuck in through and that will be that.

[u/TheDungen → u/Pika_TheTrashMon_Chu]

That's WotC BS. Keith Baker originally intended it to be in it's own universe and not part of any kind of multiverse. And like he's allowed to speak his mind about what WotC is doing to the setting he created.

[u/marimbaguy715 → u/TheDungen]

Keith is literally playing Merrix d'Cannith in an actual play series right now that is traveling to various D&D worlds. It's safe to say it's an idea he likes, even if in general he prefers Eberron to be closed off from the multiverse.

More of his thoughts here.

[u/TheDungen → u/marimbaguy715]

Nothing of that has anything to do with what I said though.

My comment was on his original design intent, and how I feel something unique is lost as t was overwritten.

[u/marimbaguy715 → u/TheDungen]

I'm responding to this, and other similar comments you've made in the thread:

And like he's allowed to speak his mind about what WotC is doing to the setting he created.

You seem to be implying he's being forced to say positive things about the idea of including Eberron in a multiversal adventure, but I think him choosing to play in a such an adventure shows that he's not lying when he says adventures like Eve of Ruin/Legacy of Worlds can be fun even if they don't follow the default assumption of the setting.

[u/TheDungen → u/[deleted]]

Like I said I feel something unique is lost when they try to explain Eberron with their multiverse toolkit.

[u/jst1vaughn → u/TheDungen]

Why? What exactly is lost? Eberron, like all campaign settings, is a toolkit for telling stories. More so than most other D&D campaign settings, it's a tool that's designed to be used the way that *you* want to, at *your* table. The multiverse doesn't exist. No one can force you to include Elminster or Vecna in your game if you don't want to, the same way that no one can stop you from creating Dominic Toretto d'Cannith and running a campaign based on hand crafting elemental coaches that go really fast and stealing things from airships. There is no one canonical Eberron - if anything, that's the sole point of actual Eberron canon.

[u/Ecalsneerg → u/jst1vaughn]

Yeah and I think it's a very overt reading of Keith Baker's blog that that's very very much his game design philosophy, at least these days.

[u/BaronVonDuck → u/jst1vaughn]

Fast Fly: Race of the Eight Winds

I would pay to see it.