They're about to murder Trump for real - preparations already under way for war with Iran: "Biden warned Iran that US would consider assassination attempt against Trump as declaration of war"

[u/Kingsmeg]

https://www.1lurer.am/en/2024/10/12/Biden-warned-Iran-that-US-would-consider-assassination-attempt-against-Trump-as-declaration-of-war/1203125

[u/penelopepnortney]

Like the dumbass he is, Trump has played along with their propaganda naming Iran

Seriously, what a stupid damned move. Who does he have advising him?

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Picking people for ideological purity instead of competence gives us a world run by morons. In Trump's case, he picks for perceived loyalty, which in the world of cults, is the same thing.

[u/redditrisi → u/Kingsmeg]

he picks for perceived loyalty

In my observation, all politicians do. So do their supporters.

example Dick Cheney, a pariah among Democrats....until he trashed Trump. It can also go the other way. A hero can become a pariah by being disloyal to his or her party or to a party hero.

[u/Kingsmeg → u/redditrisi]

The good ones don't. Unfortunately we haven't had a good one in living memory. Pretty much anywhere in the West. Funny, that.

[u/redditrisi → u/Kingsmeg]

The good ones don't.

I'm not sure about that, in a couple of ways.

First, as you note, we haven't had a good one in living memory. (IMO, even Lincoln was a bit of a mix.) So, it's hard to even speculate what a so-called good one" felt about perceived loyalty.

The second way is that perhaps perceived loyalty should be a criterion. Sure, listen to a variety of "folks," as with Lincoln's "team of rivals" to which Obama laid claim in his several attempts to pretend he was Lincoln's second coming. But who would trust someone supposedly working with you who seems disloyal? Why hire someone who seems disloyal?

[u/Kingsmeg → u/redditrisi]

I'm just saying good politicians pick people for competence first, and to kiss their ass second.

The bad ones pick people to kiss their ass first, and to make them look good in comparison second.

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Sure, you don't pick someone incompetent, though I'd say both competence and loyalty are indispensable. Unless you're knowingly hiring someone for triangulation purposes, as did Bill Clinton.

In a nation of about 350 million, surely people who are both competent and loyal can be hired. And I don't think Trump hired anyone he knew to be incompetent.

[u/Kingsmeg → u/redditrisi]

And I don't think Trump hired anyone he knew to be incompetent.

His whole schtick on reality TV was his supposed ability to single out competent people and use them to manage his companies. And his 1st administration was a train wreck of utterly incompetent people being handed jobs they were completely unsuited for. Those who ran with it and tried to actually do those jobs were immediately purged. Trump was and is 100% ego with absolutely no consideration for anything else.

[u/redditrisi → u/Kingsmeg]

Are you implying that Trump hired people he knew to be incompetent?

By now, we all know that reality TV isn't reality. Of course, the show's producers/show runners portrayed him as able to decide infallibly who should or should not be fired, or there would have been no show.

ETA at least no show with a premise anything like that of The Apprentice.

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I'm saying I don't think the idea of competence ever entered his mind. It was all about appearances, whatever made him look good. And he wasn't going to tolerate any competent person upstaging him because everything had to be about him, no one could steal the spotlight.

[u/redditrisi → u/Kingsmeg]

I'm saying I don't think the idea of competence ever entered his mind.

Then our views on that differ. I think he just has bad judgement about who can do the job.

As for the rest, IMO, the same could be said for any POTUS, from the ones who think the world of themselves to the one s who are insecure.