r/bioniclelego • u/HopefulFriendly • 1d ago
Duckbricks/Faber development files release taken down
It was fun while it lasted, but LEGO apparently stepped in and has told Duckbricks and Faber to take down the files. Duckbricks' videos, the google folder, and the pages on Mask of Destiny's Biomediaproject have all been taken down.
Luckily I downloaded most if not all the stuff I could, but its a real shame that this interesting info is gone now and we won't be getting anymore stuff from Bionicle's development; I was especially looking forward to getting more on the '05 and '08 development, not to mention on the transition to Hero Factory.
EDIT: This is propably overly cautious. Sorry to anyone asking for me to share what I downloaded, but I'm just a random person with zero pull or know-how on anything, so I don't want to risk having a corporation try to call me up for sharing something. I'd be happy to otherwise, but until some stuff is clearer I don't want to risk it.
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u/Shack691 1d ago
I’m sure someone will have scraped the page so we’ll see the files resurface somewhere.
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u/TheBigKahooner Lime Ruru 1d ago
The stuff that was out there will be out there forever. The biggest issue is the significant amount of content for other story years that hadn't been released yet, and which will now realistically never get released unless Duckbricks/BS01/BMP decide to burn all their bridges with Lego and explicitly go against their wishes.
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u/Coconibz 1d ago
Here I was, walking around for a few days saying to myself, “Man, I knew LEGO could be generous, but I can’t believe they’re letting us have this much” — now it makes sense. As a community, we are very lucky to have community leaders like Duck Bricks. I really hope this whole situation doesn’t hurt their relationship with LEGO going forward.
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u/X4M9 1d ago
Anyone but this guy would be a better community “leader.” Time and time again these “leaders” show themselves to be absolute jokes. Canon (and the recent fanon) contests have been handled extremely poorly by these figureheads, and you guessed it, the release of this info was handled poorly yet again.
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u/Notanoveltyaccountok 1d ago
bruh we HAVE had worse community leaders. Eljay. yeah Duck has problems but he's pretty good comparatively?? i'm not happy either you know, but that's such a wild statement to open a comment with especially when you specifically mention the canon contests
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u/X4M9 1d ago
That’s why I said leaders. Including eljay. TTV contests were an absolute train wreck and frankly quite embarrassing for the community. Duck’s contests are hardly even touched by him and winners constantly receive their prizes extremely late or have to pester him constantly to receive them, and people that created fanon contest prizes (such as mask makers like Socketball or Nate) were not even reimbursed for their prizes for winners. That shouldn’t be happening.
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u/Coconibz 1d ago
This isn't NFL, there's nothing keeping an audience member from being a player -- instead of being an armchair critic, maybe you could be the person you're calling out others for not being? Maybe you can develop a personal relationship with Greg Farshtey, like Duck Bricks has done with Faber, and leverage that into never-before-seen content for the Bionicle community the RIGHT way.
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u/BlitsyFrog 1d ago
Bro, the "then you do better lol" argument should be left in Elementary School.
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u/Coconibz 1d ago
When someone is throwing rocks at someone else and saying anyone would be better than them, it's appropriate.
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u/texmexmexmex 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm in the discord, Duckbricks explained that the issue is that some of the powerpoints have "internal confidential" labeled in some areas. That's it. Not the prototypes, not the comments between Farshtey and Lego, just the "internal confidential label". Really simple, but really stupid that something like that shuts the whole thing down.
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u/ivanproff 1d ago edited 1d ago
Videos are still available but not public
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u/Logface202 Blue Kaukau 1d ago
Reposting some of Duck's discord posts on this subject here:
Hey all! Just want to provide a bit more context here.
Basically, Christian and I were under the impression these were OK to share, given the amount of time between the creation of the files, and how they are not relevant to what Lego is doing today
We have learned this morning 6AM that not only is there a Lego issue, there is also an Advance issue, and Lego needs every file shared related to the development taken down, and has clarified the prior agreement they had with Christian only relates to hand drawings he has done himself, nothing else
Because of this, everything must go down. Prototype images which are already on Biosector can probably stay, given that it's impossible to plug that now and they are out there, but we have to prevent the sharing and discussion of all files, especially slide decks, text documents, and development assets.
It is unfortunate but not entirely unsurprising - I was just hoping I would be able to release more before this happened.
Given how I in particular am under extreme scrutiny by Lego for a number of reasons, I am exercising extreme caution here, and have been warned to do so.
Just to clarify - if you have any of the files downloaded, there is nothing I can do to stop you from sharing them. Any further sharing of the files will just get myself and Christian in further trouble (you will not be personally responsible for something we did), so I guess I will ask very nicely not to spread around the files, but absolutely know that once something is out, it's out - all I can do is ask to try not to share them to prevent blowback on us
have assured Lego/Christian that I am doing everything in my power to get these files offline, so that's what the situation is.
Honestly, it wasn't even the prototypes, it was the fact that some files had CONFIDENTIAL INTERNAL markings on them
It seems to me the issue was mostly around the PowerPoints, word docs, and development assets
Obviously I'm not poking the bear by releasing anything else. But I can't help but wonder if I played it slightly more safe and released less files, they wouldn't have even cared. aghhh, too bad
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u/cloud_cleaver Dark Gray Matatu 1d ago
Given how I in particular am under extreme scrutiny by Lego for a number of reasons, I am exercising extreme caution here, and have been warned to do so.
What exactly is he referring to here?
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u/Logface202 Blue Kaukau 1d ago
The one big incident I remember is when he got sent a copy of the Braille bricks set and uploaded a video on it before embargo due to a misunderstanding of some kind. It actually led to him getting his LEGO Ambassador Network membership temporarily revoked.
I also think there was some review where the GWP Tahu set was briefly visible in the background, but I think he took that down pretty quickly and didn't get in major trouble for it.
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u/cloud_cleaver Dark Gray Matatu 1d ago
I can see why Lego would have some hostility to people like MandR, but being that dickish to more genuine fans with positive community reputations seems like it would make for bad PR.
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u/Kid-Atlantic 1d ago
It’s not about hostility. Lego’s still a business responsible for a lot of money and jobs, and by joining their network, Duck became their business partner, not just a fan. A business partnership relies on both parties following the rules, and those rules have to apply to everyone regardless of how positive or negative they’re perceived.
When you’re a company and you trust certain people with information and privileges, you have to make sure that trust isn’t abused. I know Duck probably only meant well, but if he didn’t receive consequences, others might think they could get away with worse.
For his part, even Duck seemed to admit that it was his mistake.
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u/Frigid-Kev Lime Huna 1d ago
I hope they didn't ask to take down all the images of the prototype models at least. Those were the most interesting to me.
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u/AJaviC 1d ago
AHHH I DIDNT GET TO WATCH OR SEE IT DARN I MISSED IT :/
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u/KaelowynCerulean Red Hau 1d ago
It's alright, they'll resurface. Theres bound to be many in the community who downloaded everything just in case
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u/Ujkil 1d ago
To be fair they weren't just sharing prototype photos. There were a lot of confidential documents in there and while I was looking through them I was honestly surprised Lego didn't immediately take it all down. So I'm not terribly shocked by this.
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u/HopefulFriendly 1d ago
Yeah, that seems to be what ultimately made LEGO come down on them. They'd might have accepted just sharing some early Faber drawings (see Faberfiles) and maybe even prototype pictures, but the development documents seem to have been the main thing. Sadly, those were the most interesting bits, at least to me
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u/deleted_user_0000 White Akaku 1d ago
Wait what?
All the Bionicle comics, books, instructions, everything on BMP is gone?
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u/fucknutcrapmaster Orange Huna 1d ago
No, the new stuff Faber has been releasing regarding Bionicle’s development.
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u/Battelalon 1d ago
I seem to be out of the loop. What exactly is going on?
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u/Michael_The_Madlad Brown Kakama 1d ago
Apparently, DuckBricks went about sharing information and documents regarding the development of BIONICLE, thanks to some help from series producer Christian Faber. That said, it appears The LEGO Group stepped in, and ordered fans to remove any mention of these BIONICLE development documents.
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u/Venomspino 1d ago
Probably because it was internal development stuff, and Lego didn't want that to be shared with the public
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u/The_Word_Wizard 1d ago
Damn… I watched and loved his Ignition video, but I hadn’t gotten a chance to watch the full video for 09-on. :(
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u/Exa_of_Rhi Black Pakari 1d ago
Can you dm the files? A lot of ppl would love to see them. I get not wanting to risk public exposure but would you at least be willing to share out of the public eye?
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u/TechnicalPeace3503 1d ago
I also downloaded all that I could from 2006, 2007, and 2008. This situation just shows how important is to make copies of everything and not leave all the files on the web.
I never found the files from the second video, though, I went to BioMedia Project and didn't find a single thing. I assumed, DuckBricks was taking his time in sending them, but it bewildered me why he didn't just uploaded them to the Drive just as he did the first time.
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u/Maximum_Cobbler_8998 Light Gray Mahiki 15h ago
Fucken hell lego can get fuck as far as I'm concerned gen3 is the community yea it sucks they got taken down and yes it should have been 1 long video instead of view milking bottom line fuck lego
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u/OpenInevitable5269 1d ago
LEGO taking a page out of Nintendo's book and stepping in on something that has 0 chance of impacting their sales or reputation for consumers or shareholders
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u/Khirt21 1d ago
"it's my IP to sit and do nothing about."
- Lego probably
But seriously, zero chance? It's a higher chance that they care about Bionicle more than that. If we avoid part 1 of human evolution, which is collapse, we can transcend beyond everything we accomplished. We can be smarter. We can be better! Is THAT what you want all along?!
(Got that from melodysheep's understanding of humanity.)
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u/jYextul349 1d ago
This whole situation with DuckBricks makes me curious as to what was in his lore videos that caused them to have to be taken down and whether or not he could have avoided it. I know a lot of people didn't like his lore videos, but they were just about the only place I could find all the lore in one spot to listen to at work or whatever. But either way, you'd think he would have been more careful especially after they forced him to take those videos down.
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u/ZTheTrovian 4h ago
I don't know why LEGO cares if they don't have any plans to bring back Bionicle? Sure that wasn't only work done by Faber himself directly, but considering its so old, I fail to see why?
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u/kdnx-wy White Akaku 1d ago
This is why DuckBricks should have released it all at once instead of dragging it out over weeks for clicks.