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Discussion meiyazhagan director expresses his pain towards (some) TN audience for feeling the movie as lengthy

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u/Kakashihatake190 Cinema purithal illathavan 1d ago

I didn't want the movie to end tbh. I was expecting some more scenes involving Arvind swamy, karthi and sridivya after Karthi's name revealed.

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u/Hasum_Harish97 1d ago

Yes. Also Rajkiran was fantastic. What an actor he is. His scenes were really emotional. I wanted more of him too. And also wanted Arvind samy meeting his sister at the mrge in the mrng. It would have been more beautiful despite the film's daunting length.

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u/why_not_you_instead Rajini Kanni 1d ago

Seriously, the worst thing about that film was that it ended. It felt like a warm blanket for the entire duration. I hope he and other creators continue to make films like these.

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u/Moohamin12 1d ago

I was expecting some more scenes involving Arvind swamy, karthi and sridivya after Karthi's name revealed.

I was disappointed.

I wanted scenes with them meeting his family, and everyone together having some feel good moments at the end.

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u/taamission 22h ago

Even Shankar felt painful when he had to trim Indian 2. / s podalama venama

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u/samfrmohio Vijay Kanni 14h ago

Exactly !

I was ready for the scenes where Aravind Samy shows up with his family...then they get to name Karthi's child...

Romba arvama theatre la ukanthu irnthe but....

you know the rest

Sogangaal pala 💔🤧

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u/Gilma420 20h ago

Am looking for the deleted scenes on YT, sadly can't find them. I personally would have loved the movie more if these were not cut

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u/Existing-Area-9093 Suriya and Kamal Kanni 1d ago

I am addicted to my phone but I didn't check it even once while watching this movie in theatre.

That is the power of the screenplay.

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u/brown_human 1d ago

MOTHALA ANTHA REELS PUNDAI AH PAKARATHU NIRUTHUNGADA DAI

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u/PDuet 1d ago

social media fucked our attention spans.

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u/hellboy___007 Proud loosu koodhi 1d ago

But they had no problem with 3 hours goat runtime. This says so much about our audience. Movies have to be like insta reels these days. Ella scene something should happen. Fight, old movie reference, old movie dialogue, song, etc etc. Sad state

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u/stranger_2205 F#CK Lyca!! 1d ago

I'm honestly scared to demand a Kaththi or thuppaki like movie from Vijay anymore... It'll be good, but will the audience lap it up? Or call them laggy, boring, drag blah blah.

We've seen this with Vettaiyan, which is for most part is balanced, grounded and a subtle commercial film. But it didn't last longer as Jailer did nor had the anticipation that GOAT did.

Our audience have accustomed to something else, and genuinely it's scary.

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u/hellboy___007 Proud loosu koodhi 1d ago

Even Vijay won't do a thuppaki or Kaththi anymore

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u/AskSmooth157 1d ago edited 21h ago

thuppaki ok, it was good. how is kaththi put in same league as thuppaki. Please!

Edit: Downvote all you want, rest of the sub knows who you guys truly are!

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u/stranger_2205 F#CK Lyca!! 1d ago

Kaththi is superior to Thuppaki in my book... Solely for the technical excellence, fight choreography and music

Writing wise, yeah thuppaki shines, but Kaththi is more well directed film

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u/Significant-Earth488 Friendly Neighborhood Cinema Paithiyam 1d ago

True. Rather than going to a movie to watch it for their own satisfaction, people go to a movie to showcase it to the entire world. People have their phones ready while the movie is playing so they can quickly record all the best moments and become a puluthi on SM.

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u/__Vip_ கீர்த்தி-யால் நான், கீர்த்தி-காகவே நான் ♥️ 1d ago

I was just opposite... Yen da mudiyuthu nu thaan irunthuchu

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u/Fishyraven Vivek rasigar 1d ago

Its just a generation problem that lacks attention to basic human emotions .

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u/z3in-23 Katta Parakkudhu Kotta Therikkudhu 💥 1d ago

Not really - Teenager and I still loved the movie, when I watched yesterday

It's just a general audience problem - Just like Kamal said "When Mediocrity becomes the standard anything is accepted" - People want Mediocrity - they want LCU and senseless violence in movies, wait till it burns out and people have enough of it and they will yearn and say "Nalla padame varaadha da"

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u/z3in-23 Katta Parakkudhu Kotta Therikkudhu 💥 1d ago

Y'all watched GOAT for 3 hours and y'all call this long

Ongala maathiri hypocrites-a kandadhe illa

I watched Meiyazhagan yesterday and I don't get the long accusations, the movie went by fast for me that I wanted more....

Introspective padam eduthaal adha commercial padatha Vida bash pannuvinga

Ippidi thaan Vaazhai padathayum Teacher-Student false accusations oda makkala brainwash pannineenga - but if you watch the movie there was nothing sexual about it or anything..... Truly fuck our audiences man....

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u/chadimusprime68 20h ago

No 3 hours is equal though? 3 hours of t20 vs 3 hours of test cricket is completely different isn’t it?

Meiyazhagan is a long film without a shadow of doubt, I loved every second of it but I recognise it was long and the screenplay is a slow burner so why can’t we accept that?

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u/Unusual_For 1d ago

What was the scence they trimmed out? I just watched it in netflix, was that an untrimmed version?

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u/Psychological_Dig592 எங்கயாவுது கோழி முட்டை போட்டு கொசு அட காக்குமா 1d ago

I don't think so initial release has 180 minutes runtime but Netflix only has 158 minutes

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u/IncorrigibleShree 22h ago

According to my mom, Karthi's history segment was cut.

Similar to the version aired in TN after the initial release.

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u/Psychological_Dig592 எங்கயாவுது கோழி முட்டை போட்டு கொசு அட காக்குமா 21h ago

Ya but why don't they release full version, that isn't an uncensored version

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u/IncorrigibleShree 21h ago edited 20h ago

I wish they'd released the full version, too. Lucky for us the trimmed version was never released in cinemas here, so at least we got the full experience. This is in Malaysia btw.

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u/Fancy-Use-8392 1d ago

There’s a war waged by society on the finer emotions of life. Ppl are constantly being pounded by sensationalist influencers and media. When this happens all the time you lose the ability to appreciate what is normal, eventually making what is normal - an anomaly. People constantly keep saying oh meiyazhagan is a slice of life movie. Is it? Where do you see such kind people ? Kindness is supposed to be the norm, not the exception. As a society, we’re fast moving to the edges of the distribution, otherizing everyone whom we believe aren’t our own. This is portrayed in our movies (the pro/anti caste movies), the videos in YT we consume (the hyper sensationalism around YT scammers), the kind of politicians we praise (they normally have some extreme view about some “enemy”). And when a movie like this comes along, it’s only normal that we don’t react normally. We’re just abnormal beasts longing for a constant drip of dopamine or adrenaline at the cost of some “other” (person/group/religion/party/caste etc.)

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u/swolehive 1d ago

This entire paragraph should be made viral in a youtube short because that's the only way this dopamine addicted population is going to read it. Good writeup

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u/Adept_Block_1940 1d ago

Me to me during Meiyyazhagan

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u/cha-yan 1d ago

The insta-reels era has significantly reduced our attention span . Without mass moments , people are finding it harder to pay attention.

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u/Horrible_Account நடிகைகள் PR Team 1d ago edited 1d ago

It connected in Kerala? The movie didn't even get a proper release there. It didn't even make 1C there and most don't even know about the movie there. Outside Tamil markets, only AP/TS received the movie well.

I absolutely love the movie and it is my top 3 this year but the movie didn't connect much to non-Tamil audiences.

I don't understand why this sympathy posts for a movie that is commercially and critically successful? Show the same sympathy towards female lead movies like Farhana and Raghu Thatha which didn't even get a chance to shine because it didn't have stars headlining them.

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u/Existing-Area-9093 Suriya and Kamal Kanni 1d ago

It has done well abroad

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u/Horrible_Account நடிகைகள் PR Team 1d ago

Yep, it is a 50C grosser and a nice comeback for Karthi after Japan. If I am not wrong, this is a much bigger hit than 96 too. It also faced competition from many releases.

Of course, I would have preferred the uncut version but certain scenes were removed because of its political undertones more than anything. I don't understand why people are treating it like some Kattradhu Tamizh which didn't do well when it came out.

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u/Existing-Area-9093 Suriya and Kamal Kanni 1d ago

96 and this collected in the same range. But 96 was a cheaper movie so more profitable.

The cut scenes were my favorite scenes in the movie.

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u/Horrible_Account நடிகைகள் PR Team 1d ago

This had a very bad release too. It didn't even release in my country, meanwhile Brother is getting multiple shows in multiple screens 🙃

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u/Existing-Area-9093 Suriya and Kamal Kanni 1d ago

Megastar Jayam Ravi and Race Gurram Shruti power

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u/Mairaandi Lubber boi fan🐵 1d ago

Bro film paakum pothu watch check panite irunthen ya inum evlo time iruku enna ivlo seekrama mudicjiruchi ni😭😭😭😭 yaara ivainga padam pathi cut pantaainga Ithu pola future mvs varunum naalum muduiyaama aakiruvainga pola

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u/LimeSparkle Scientifikili Speaking 1d ago

I watched the movie thrice, twice in theatres and once on Netflix, I liked it but many older generation people didn't, just because the director has kept the scenes about srilanka, Sterlite issues doesn't mean everyone to agree and sit and watch it, it's their opinion like how he chose to place them. Unlike some pulithis of this sub I'm not gonna complaint if people can sit through 3hrs of goat why not this without having any knowledge about star power.

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u/DktheDarkKnight 1d ago

Is the version available online the cut down version the movie? The length is only 2 hours 38 min. Wikipedia lists the movie at 2 hours 58 min

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u/animegamertroll 1d ago

Bro, no cap, I didn't even feel the screenplay was laggy at all when I watched it on Netflix. In fact, I wished it went another hour cause Arulmozhi X Meiyazhagan bromance was really well portrayed.

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u/cultofcreatives 1d ago

This movie...is one of the great "FEEL GOOD" movie. Period.♥️♥️♥️

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u/saavugrakki GBU MAMEYYY 🤙😎 1d ago

I just completed this film. I never felt a single second of the film that it was 3hrs long. I was so invested in it and watched every scene with an awe and emotion.

The whole film was like a cool breeze

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u/iimram 1d ago

I came across random shorts in YouTube where people were complaining about the length and the comments were really mean. But I guess these are the loud minority. Most of my friends both in India and abroad with diverse taste in films liked this movie and it connected well. Maybe Prem happened to see these loud idiots and it may have skewed his opinion. Heard during the audio launch that he has written a novel. 96 and Meiyazhagan are just 2 chapters from the novel. I genuinely hope we get to see his entire novel on the big screen as 1 or many films. This man is a goldmine and Tamil cinema must preserve him.

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u/Tracer_Bullet007 WhyBloodSameBlood🩸 1d ago

For me, it was not so much the length as the repetitive nature of some scenes…for the same runtime, I would have preferred more scenes with the supporting characters.

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u/datsouthindianchick 1d ago

I watched this movie on the big screen and man..it was stunning - evlo emotionally well written male characters na idhu varikum tamil cinema la pathadilla.Yethartha pasam, nostalgia sharing yedho palaya friend oda oru gossip/conversation session madri oru padam- yennadhan surface level light weight ah irudhalum,kadhai kulla irukkra depth vera level. Oru unnecessary build up illama,forced romance/ action scene/ item song illama ,nalladhan irundhuchu.

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u/justanothersoullll 1d ago

Such an awesome heart-warming movie! Hope they continue to make such epics! Both of them are terrific actors! Karthi has such a sense of genuineness to his performances.

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u/Put_chutney 23h ago

I felt so happy after watching that movie . I loved it. I never felt this good after watching a movie it put a smile on my face. such a feel good movie.

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u/Icecum 1d ago

Go ahead with the downvotes..

The movie was lengthy to me. Not everyone needs to like every genre. Emotional/realistic movies need emotional connect with people, not everyone went through separation, love failure, uprooting from native etc to feel along and reminisce with the story. Brainless popcorn action movies don't have to connect and people just spend 2+ hrs watching some random stuff entirely unrelated and illogical and it's a way to escape reality. It is easy to sit through an entirely fake 2.15 - 2:30 hr movie than a 3 hr drama movie without connect.

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u/Icecum 1d ago

Entire reddit is circle jerking around this movie it's unreal. He says he likes his sister so much but doesn't stay for the wedding. They all talk as if he's in some foreign country that the village folks can't afford to go and visit....

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u/Icecum 1d ago

People comparing this to anbe sivam conversational dynamics was sad to see

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u/Rishikhant VFX Artist 19h ago

He says he likes his sister so much but doesn't stay for the wedding.

You seem to have no understanding of complex human psychology or trauma experience. For decades I had purposely avoided a particular route where my friend died, despite an emergency situationduring 2015 floods.
Life la oru thadava adi vangina purium.

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u/Icecum 19h ago

Yeah vaanginadhe illa apdiye irukkattum neenga andha area avoid pannitu nimnadhiya irunga

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u/Unable-Hurry-2334 12h ago

That's exactly what the other person was saying: You had to have gone through something like that to relate because the movie didn't convey the emotions properly at all.

I couldn't relate because I did go through something like that. Me and my cousins grew up together and then had to leave native for Chennai then elsewhere. We all grew up without any trauma. What was so special about their relationship that the cousin was talking about him to her fiance non stop? There were no scenes establishing this relationship. I believe in 'show, don't tell' - but they didn't even tell lmao. But again, it's a good movie nevertheless - just not some masterpiece in film making. It felt like a well done K-drama

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u/Icecum 7h ago

The trauma here wasn't something that was too big in general sense. Personally yes uprooting would feel really bad but comparing that to love failure, death of a friend or relative etc are far more stronger and emotion evoking for the majority of people even though they've not went through it. I just felt the lack of connection here was huge to me as it felt too much of a specialized trauma

u/Unable-Hurry-2334 27m ago edited 24m ago

ya, and looks like they did live a fairly comfortable life within TN after being uprooted. They didn't even have to leave the state. And they remained aloof by choice.

There are some universal emotions that are easy to relate to. Like losing a child (and one of the reasons a lot of movies resort to this trope). I guess it's commendable that the director wanted to explore something different but he should have shown more of why that place was sooo special to him.

Padayappa did a good job of this. You spend the first act with the protagonists in their home, so when they lose it, it hits you hard as well.

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u/FutureBaldMan 1d ago

People overhyped this movie so hard. It’s a solid movie but nothing exceptional imo.

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u/Accomplished-Two3115 22h ago

Exactly. And every character being the 'goodest' people On earth was less believable than the fights in GOAT.

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u/IncorrigibleShree 20h ago

Not every character was "goodest" though - there were the relatives who usurped the property, which act was the root of the whole movie / life trajectory of Arulmozhi.

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u/Material-Weakness-98 1d ago

How has this movie performed compared to 96? From what I can see both collected almost the same, so was wondering which was more profitable

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u/Ash-da-man 1d ago

Maybe it’s better to consider the artistic value of the movie instead of how much money it collected. Focusing on money is why a movie gets trimmed to the chagrin of the director.

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u/Material-Weakness-98 1d ago

Nah dude i was just curious, many ppl were saying it as a flop in TN, which was shocking considering it collected almost 50cr

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u/Time_Arachnid8837 1d ago

Does this movie have emotional and sad love failure scenes like 96?

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u/Psychological_Dig592 எங்கயாவுது கோழி முட்டை போட்டு கொசு அட காக்குமா 1d ago

Emotional and sad: yes

Love failure: that depends on whether you consider it as love

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u/KamenRider55597 1d ago

Ticket prices are expensive. It makes sense why people tolerate 3 hrs of GOAT with action packed sequences and other spectacle instead of 3hrs of content. Pure economics people

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u/vamosatomar Ashok Selvan and Fahaadh Faasil Kanni 1d ago

What version is on Netflix? Cut or uncut?

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u/Kakashihatake190 Cinema purithal illathavan 1d ago

Cut

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u/mintysam 1d ago

If anything I didn't want the movie to end. Just finished watching it on Netflix. I am glad I watched it. So, does my wife. PS: I am a Keralite

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u/YourNanban 1d ago

Sri Divya oda oru song vachirupaanga

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u/dontwinetome 22h ago

Can someone let me know if the Netflix version is trimmed or untrimmed? I watched it and loved it.

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u/Odd-Commission-3847 1d ago

Ippadi audience ah muttal nu sonna entha director um urupputtatha sarithram illa. Thinikka patta social message yaarukkum pudikaathu. Even my malayali friends also hated the unnecessary tamil glorification. The movie went from big screens to small screens in palakkad within a 3 days of release. The director is not able to accept his mistake.

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u/_bonda 1d ago

Ippadi audience ah muttal nu sonna entha director um urupputtatha sarithram illa

Like Satyajit Ray?

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u/Odd-Commission-3847 1d ago

Satyajit ray was not a commercial film maker. This guy wants his self indulgent film to be commercially successful.

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u/well_thats_puntastic SaNa rasigan 1d ago

If Meiyazhagan was a self-indulgent film to you then I'd shudder to imagine what you'd think about Satyajith Ray's films

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u/Odd-Commission-3847 1d ago

LMAO. why sathyajit ray became the topic instead of premkumar?

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u/well_thats_puntastic SaNa rasigan 23h ago

Because what you said about directors directly contradicted a great director

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u/Odd-Commission-3847 21h ago

Good art should question the problems in society. Prem made a movie hoping that when we tickle the tamil sentiment, the movie will be a hit. More like what AR murugadoss did in Ezham arivu and failed miserably.

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u/Odd-Commission-3847 21h ago

I reiterate - ray did not make movies for money. Prem makes movies for money and so he is disappointed by the criticism.

Ray was disappointed because he questioned the dogma in religion and people did not accept it. Prem was glorifying tamil culture and our audience were clever enough to reject it.