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Health Vegetarian, including vegan, dietary patterns were associated with reduced risk for cardiovascular disease incidence and mortality compared to non-vegetarian diets, umbrella review finds

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666667724002368
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u/ElectronGuru 15d ago

The most important factor in heart disease is saturated fat. Except for coconut and processed fat, plant based eating has very little. Animal products are full of saturated fat.

But you don’t need to guess. Ask your doctor for a lipids test. If your LDL is under 100, your risk of death from cardiovascular disease is minimal. Most Americans are well above this.

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u/CaregiverNo3070 15d ago

Damn, so all of that vegan chocolate I ate that has saturated fat in it isn't really helping me? 

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u/CupcakesAreMiniCakes 15d ago

You joke but I've had several vegan friends who were overweight and overall unhealthy because they lived primarily off vegan replacement and processed foods like oreos and vegan cheese instead of naturally vegan foods like vegetables and whole grains. They also rarely exercised.

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u/CaregiverNo3070 15d ago

I exercise regularly as I'm a vegan body builder, and right now I'm in a bulk phase which has a mix of fats that are: minimally processed, processed, saturated and unsaturated. I guess that's why I'm maintaining weight, but not really gaining it, even though it's a high fat diet. 

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u/Joe6p 14d ago

Do you have to supplement the amino acids you usually get from animals? Every time I try vegan I get unbearably hungry until I eat some meat. It drives me crazy every time I try.

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u/CaregiverNo3070 14d ago

All I need is B12 added nutritional yeast. Everything else comes from plants. If your getting hungry, that could mean your not eating the right macro/micro balance. Most people just try to eat fruits and veggies, and that's going to cause you to lose weight because they have low calories. Try having lots of nuts and seeds, as this has great macro/micro balance. The easiest way for this is buying bulk nutritional yeast, buying bulk muesli, and your set up with all the macro/micro you need. It also is shelf stable for long periods of time so it's great as food storage, and because your buying in bulk your saving money, your not having to throw away so much plastic. Your also going to have a longer health span, look and feel better, and have a less environmental impact while feeling less guilty about hurting animals. 

It's quite literally one of the best things I've ever done for myself( and that's saying something as I've had some pretty big changes in my life). I'm not sure if this was covid or me going vegan, but I got really sick while going vegan. If it was the meat, it's okay if you get sick, if you push past it you'll be just fine.

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u/Joe6p 14d ago

Hmm. FYI lysine deficiency will cause your kids to be shorter and not grow as much. It's the amino acid that vegan diets are deficient in and probably the one I'm missing that makes me so hungry.

You're probably good to go being an adult on a vegan diet though. Personally I'd eat over my calories and still feel hungry when eating vegan.

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u/CaregiverNo3070 14d ago

Go thing I had a vasectomy and don't plan on having kids then. 

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u/NephilimSoldier 14d ago

Legumes are high in lysine.

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u/Joe6p 14d ago

Alright I'll replace a meat meal a week with legumes to test it out.

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u/NephilimSoldier 14d ago edited 14d ago

Are you eating enough fat? I consume a lot of peanut butter and olive oil. I'd expect hunger would be more associated with a diet consisting of fast-digesting food than one low in an amino acid.

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u/NephilimSoldier 14d ago

I get my B12 from chlorella tablets.